When you can not debate; you deflect.
You can not debate regarding Irans actions, so you start to divert in an anti US policy vs the world.
Well the world has come to the US for 60 years asking to solve their problems.
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You are exactly correct here EK, as the so called leader of the "free world", the free world naturally looks to the USA to provide that wise and effective leadership. And so does the so called second and third world nations.
However EK, that is exactly my point too, the so called rest of the world has looked for the EFFECTIVE US problem solving in that same 60 years, and found it missing in action. Did the USA effectively solve anything in Vietnam? When all the US did is destabilized a whole region of countries, directly and indirectly managing to kill 3 million or so East Asians,
and that set of destabilized nations still have not totally recovered today. And meanwhile what did the US win EK? You might say, doodly sqat, when the correct answer was more decidedly negative. As a large swath of Asian nations yanked our US basing agreements because they did not want then USA to have a single excuse to monkey around with their internal politics.
Or we can talk about the USA winning the 45 year cold war with mainly Russia. As that vicious peace monger Gorbachev finally waved a white flag, declaired the USA the winner of the Super power arms race. Which caused total terror inside the USA military industrial complex as the rational reasons for spending a huge percentage of our GDP on military spending totally evaporated.
As the Russians was forced to quit dominating the big swath of Eastern European nations claimed in wars of conquest during WW2, and also transitioned from Communism to capitalism which was anything but fair as various Russian Oligarks made assets that formely belonged to the Russian people into their personal possessions by tilting the playing field.
But still, the Russian people took the peace dividend, it was a pretty tough 20 years for the Russian people and their pride, but now the Russian economy and their pride is not fully but now mostly restored. As the Russian economy now has a healthy positive balance of trade, and and an even brighter future.
But the fall of Russian Communism can maybe traced back to its ill fated attempted conquest of Afghanistan that it lost when the US armed terrorists with State of the arts missiles and also trained terrorists with CIA instructors. But when the Russians were sent packing out of Afghanistan, the USA lost a golden opportunity to help stabalize Afghanistan, by in action. As a result Afghanistan went into a long civil war, that led to the rise of Taliban as the only entity that could defeat the rule of war lords, drug dealers,
and total gangs of thugs.
And now Afghanistan has come back full circle, the USA supports a Karzai government that is basically a collection of war lords, drug dealers, and a gangs of thugs. As the US people can't possibly understand why the Afghan people, after being betrayed by their own puppet government plus Nato, place more faith in the Taliban.
Twenty years ago the Arabs in the mid-east still placed some faith in the US to broker a just peace in the USA. Clinton then did nothing, GWB drove US world credibility to decidely negative levels, then Obama finally reived some Arab hope in his speech in Egypt as he promised some real US leadership. But talk is cheap, and Obama finally restored more hope when he asked Israel for a real settlement freeze in August September/ 2010 time frame with a year timeline to Iron out the differences. As we know, Netanyuhu refused and played the political AIPAC card, and Arab trust in Obama is now back to zero. As we can also note, after Saddam tried to steal Kuwait in 8/1989, the entire world, including some communist governments, willingly did their bit to join in a military coalition to make sure Saddam got out of Kuwait.
And now the USA can do, is form a coalition of the billing in Iraq and Afghanistan. And the support we have gotten from our so called allies, mainly Western European Nato nations has been far less than half hearted at best. As nation like France and England, with centuries of experience in running military occupations know losing tactics when they see it. As for Germany who gives lip service to the USA, gives lip service and no troops.
But IMHO, its an all in all danerous trend line for the USA and the American people. As we want to claim leadership in the world, as you want to claim "Well the world has come to the US for 60 years asking to solve their problems". But when the news facts are, even our allies have little faith in the USA to solve anything. Or to put it another way EK, the USA can claim we are still the leaders we were 60 years ago, but when we have fewer and fewer followers, the reality of US leadership is rather increasingly hollow.
Or we can go back to that statement of Mao, that was hardly new at the time. That power flows from the barrel of a gun. A statement that, IMHO, was obsolute long before WW2, and is now totally obsolute in a nuclear age. As I submit power flows from the economies and technologies of various nations. World nations who have wise domestic and foreign policies kep thir economies in tact, foolish nations that sqaunder their existing economies with stupid and unsustainable domestic and foreign policies are heading to the scrap bin of history. In 1952, exactly your 60 years ago, the US was in fine shape. A positive balance of trade, a great economy, a great manufactering base, a very strong middle class, our corporations paid 50% of US taxes, and we had little debt. Now out foreign balance of trade has been going ever faster south since 1980, out economy is shrinking, we have outsourced almost all of our manufacturing base, our middle class is badly eroding, the very Rich and corportations have dumped much of their former tax burden onto the shrinking middle class, and US public debt is way past any control. As long as interest cost to service that public debt remain low, we can pretend our debt is ustainable, but if interest costs rise to 6%, the US economy will collapse. We the people of the USA did not dig ourself into this whole over night, it took 60 sustained years of foolish domestic and foreign policy.
Or we can look at who the future economic winners may be. Nations like Brazil, India, China, likely also Russia, Egypt, Iran, and possibly Turkey. And don't rule out resource rich nations in Africa and possibly Canada.
Why should I or you look at only unsustainable US polices in the mid-east. Or believe I use only deflections when its the VERY ROOT OF THE QUESTIONS we should be looking at as US citizens. Or for that matter citizens of the State of Israel.
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