Bad Experiance with Ultra Products

ColdZero

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I've had a bad experiance with Ultra Products that I feel that I should share. If this was just their hardware breaking, I wouldn't be writing this, but rather it was the experiance I've had with the company that I felt I should write this to let people considering their products know.

Around the last week in August, I purchased a X-Connect power supply. I received it in the mail and I was very impressed with its look and the disconnecting cables. I placed the power supply in my case and connected all the cables. It was replacing an Antec that had gotten pretty loud. My case looked really clean when I was done. I turned the computer on and all was good, for 15 minutes. I'm browsing a web page and my computer suddenly switches off. I opern her up to see what is going on. I checked the power supply first, being the only change to the system. It was too hot to touch. I unplugged it from the wall and took the power supply out of the case. It was really really hot, it felt around the same temperature as my Athlon 64's heatsink. I was going to school within the next few days, so I didn't have time to call FrozenCPU to change the powersupply. I also go to school 20 minutes from FrozenCPU's headquarters, so it didn't make sense for me to pay for shipping.

I had placed my old power supply back in my computer and tried to turn it on, nothin. I didn't have time to fiddle with it, so I brought the whole thing to school. When I got here, a friend was building a A64 3200+ system, he was kind enough to let me try my parts in his system. We took all of his componenents and just put my motherboard in, no post. We put his motherboard in, the stuff posts. We put my processor in his motherboard, no post. So my processor and motherboard are toasted. I call up Ultra products the next business day to see if they would be willing to do anythign about my broken parts being that it was their p/s that broke them. I talked to one guy who said that they'd replace the power supply, but I would have to call the next day to ask about the motherboard and processor.

After going back and forth for about a week of theym asking me to try stuff and RMA parts, I finally said it bluntly that I wanted the current retain price of my motherboard and processor (I already had to buy new ones because I needed to do work for school). I got an email back saying that I should call up Newegg (where I got my mobo and proc) and ask for a return. I replied back saying that I bought these in February, the return policy is for 7 days on CPUs and it was OEM anyway, my 30 day warranty is up.

The reply I got to this was:
"Just let them know the system will not boot and you had made sure the proper cooling had been attached to the CPU. It is basically their obligation to replace a DOA CPU."

To which I wrote back that in good conscience I will not call Newegg (Whom I've never had problems with) and tell that that my system won't post and leave out the part that your power supply was the cause of these problems. It isn't Newegg's obligation to replace anything since they never sold me a defective part.

That was a week ago, to which I have not recieved a response from Ultra Products. I've sent them another email to see what is going on, but haven't heard back from them yet. I find it kind of disturbing that they would ask me to call up another company and lie to them about what happened to my computer and then expect them to replace something that is out of warranty. I also told Ultra that they could have my broken parts if they want, as proof that I'm not making this up, I'd be happy to send them the parts.

As for FrozenCPU, those guys rule, I brought the power supply back to them and they didn't even make me take another one of Ultra's products, they gave me store credit which I think was very cool of them.

As for Ultra, I hope that this experiance can serve as a warning to other people thinking of buying their products.
 

Kenazo

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I had an ultra psu that went too. Though, luckily it didn't take anything out with it. Good to know that they should be avoided.
 

CraigRT

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Very happy with mine still.. hopefully gives me no problems.
best design PSU out there... hopefully it lasts! :)
 

Quasmo

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Contact the Better Business Beureau Http://www.BBB.org Once you file a report your problem should be handled quitely and efficiently because those reports stay on their record. Something like this (telling you to lie to another company) looks really bad.
 

ColdZero

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I sent the last email this morning, they have till tomorrow afternoon to remedy this, then I go to the BBB. I didn't even think of that, thanks for the idea.
 

Kenazo

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Originally posted by: ColdZero
Should I be talking to Powmax or stick with Ultra?

or go directly to Tiger Direct... We all know how good their CSR's are.
 

malsert

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Hello. I am the PR Coordinator from Ultra Products. Please e-mail me at PR@ultraproducts.com. My name is Malsert, and I will be happy to handle all of your requests. Ultra Products has a great reputation for customer service, and I assure you that we value our customers. I look forward to hearing from you!

Thank you. Have a nice day.
 

pelikan

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Isn't it great when a little bad publicity causes companies to "act" responsible? ColdZero please let us know what happens.

This thread just goes to show how important it is to buy a good brand power supply that is recommended by experienced forum members here. That way you get stability, reliability and, if something does go wrong, excellent customer service without pulling teeth.
 

malsert

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Good customer service is a must, and we are commited to delivering it all the time. If you look up the X-Connect on Google, you will see plenty of trusted review sights that have reviewed our products, especially the X-Connect. Not only that, but often they mention what great customer service we offer.

The X-Connect just recieved an Editor's Choice Award from PC Gamer in the November issue in addition to many other editor's choice awards. We maintain impecable standards for our products, and people have recognized that.

Below you'll find a link to our review page:

http://www.ultraproducts.com/prod_reviews.php
 

rileychris

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Malsert,

BUT What we all want to kow is that if I buy your power supply and it fries my new $500 CPU and $200 Mobo what will you do about it? Can we expect the same service mentioned above? If you can't answer this expect to start losing customers in a hurry.
 

CoolJazz

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I?ve been a tech for over 7 years and I have worked for one of the top manufacturers in the industry.

Attaching power supply connectors improperly can have a devastating effect on your PC, including burning up both your power supply and motherboard. Maybe you overlooked one of them causing your Mobo and Proc to die.

Most power supplies are protected from no-load operation and shut down automatically. Some of the cheap clone supplies, however, lack the protection circuit and relay.
I always suspect the Power supply when a flaky system operation occurs. Of course, the following fairly obvious symptoms point right to the power supply as a possible cause:
System Errors
System is completely dead (no fan, no cursor)
Smoke (very rare)

Honestly I have never heard of a power supply dying in the way you described it. ? TOO HOT TO TOUCH??????Sounds unrealistic.
 

iwantanewcomputer

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i want to point out that reviews of power supplies on computer sites like this can not account for the reliability of the power supply. of couse the company is going to send the reviewers a working power supply that they have stress tested to see if it is likely to fail. power supply reviews are good for voltage stability, maximum loads, etc. the only way to know if you are getting a reliable power supply is to hear feedback from people who build and maintain many computers, running the power supplies for long periods of time.
 

ColdZero

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I didn't connect it incorrectly, I've build 15+ systems, I know how to connect a power supply. Even so, it would be physically impossible to connect it incorrectly as all the plugs are keyed for shape. The system was also not overclocked in any way.

Anyways, I called today and left a message with Malsert, I'll let you guys know what happens.

Thanks to everybody for their help.
 

dmw16

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Very helpful CoolJazz <note sarcasim>

Anyone who has built a decent number of systems knows how to plug a PSU in. And for the record I have had a PSU kill a board and chip...and I wasnt overclocking either. a$$.
 

ColdZero

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Well I got an email back from Ultra today...they dissapear for 2 weeks, then when I mention BBB I get an email. Basically they said they aren't going to do anything for me. They will only replace the power supply since that is all they are responsible for. I guess all the stickers all over the thing that say tested, thermal protection and overload protection mean nothing. I wish I could put stickers on my products and not actually be responsable for what they say.

I haven't heard from Malsert yet, so I guess there is still hope. Howerver I do know that every single person who has asked me about building a computer in the past few weeks (4+ since its back to college time) I've told of my experiance and told them NOT to get an Ultra PS because of this. I'm also going to share my experiance with every labbie and prof I can in the IT department of RIT, which builds every single one of our workstations.

Today my friend asked me about a PS and said he wanted to get an Ultra, I told him of my experiance and probably, I said it was probably a fluke and to get it anyways since he wanted it so much. His reply to me was, "If thats the service I don't want to risk it then."

While not a big dent in their profits, at least $500+ of their power supplies have not been sold because of this, which is much more than they would lose if they just did the right thing. In which case I'd be telling everybody how I got a crappy power supply, but these people own, so get one anyway and they'd be making more money. I'd rather see Superflower get the money, who offered to replace BOTH of a friend's raptors that one of their power supplies killed as soon as they heard about it.

Malsert is Ultra's and my last chance I guess. This whole situation is aggrevating...arg.
 

gan911

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Well, i guess i can add to this story. I built a amd64 3200+ with a k8v se mobo. I bought a chieftec full tower and an ultra '580'watt psu ... all from tigerdirect. Well, after i get my entire comp together, I booted installed windows, etc. etc....Everything was fine except when i went to work one day, left my laptop and my new desktop on, came home and my desktop was dead. The psu on the ultra was fried...no storms, nothing...my laptop was on the same powerstrip and everything was fine. I had my new comp for only 3 days, and the psu was dead. I saw that my southbridge was also fried on the mobo...it literally left a big scorch mark on the inside of my case. Returned the psu to tigerdirect, only got 16 bucks back for it (never will buy from them again) and the mobo got RMAed. Hopefully my cpu isn't burnt out, since i have no way of test it. I should be setting the computer up again this weekend.....and i now have a thermaltake pure power 420 (from newegg)


my take? never deal with tigerdirect and stick with the better name brands for PSUs...
 

rileychris

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Well, you can make that $600. If they don't take care of you, I am not going to get one for my new system. It is a shame too. I really like the way they look and like the less cluttered cables, but looks don't make up for not taking responsibilty for mistakes and having unreliable products. I guess I am heading for an antec.
 

TK-421

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Hmm.. you can add me to the list of people with problems. I just built a K8N Neo2/3500+ system with a Ultra X-Connect 500W, and it lasted about 6 hours. Then it developed a problem where it would only work if it was oriented vertically, not horizontally. Chalk that up as the weirdest problem I've encountered in system building. Luckily I was able to RMA it back to the seller, but I'm getting another Ultra to replace it. Hope my second one works ok. If this second one doesn't work I'm going with an Antec NeoPower, lots of good reviews for that and it's modular too.
 

arod

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just a question here but do any power supply makers actually refund the "retail" price for your system if it breaks? I never heard of any company that does (sub $100 ps)
 

arod

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Any other users of the Ultra? I was planning on getting one due to the modular design (really appeals to me).
 

Yolner

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Wow i was going to get one for my next build but I guess antec will get my money once again. Nothing is worse than crappy customer service.