Bad CRT, or bad video card?

mysticfm

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I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (AGP, 256MB) that I've used for a couple of years with a Mitsubishi Diamondtron CRT monitor. In January I added a Samsung LCD flat panel monitor as a 2nd monitor, attaching it via the 9800 Pro's DVI output (obviously the CRT had always been on the analog output). The CRT is now apparently failing, but I'm concerned that the video card might have been responsible. Details follow.

In the weeks after adding the 2nd monitor I had a few separate episodes during computer startup, where the CRT's screen would be noticeably pinched in at one side and had dramatically wrong colors (i.e., the Windows XP login screen was a bright neon green and red rather than a pastel blue ... even the startup "MSI Platinum" POST screen had wrong colors). Even after shutting down the computer, as the CRT went into standby mode, the colors it showed on its little test screen would be wrong. I'm still not sure, but it seemed like it happened if I had both monitors running before powering up the computer. Each time it started happening, it would continue on subsequent reboot attempts until I'd leave everything off for several minutes and then start the computer with only the CRT running (I'd then power up the flat panel once Windows was booting). I eventually took to always powering up in this order in the hopes of preventing a recurrence of the problem.

Now, over the last couple of weeks, the CRT has started acting up more generally, with a vertically twitching screen and horizontal interference lines dancing around in the bottom part of the screen. At first this was only happening after several hours of use, but now it's happening all of the time. So yesterday I detached it and just ran with the flat panel monitor on the analog output, to see if it was the video card that was causing these new problems. I let it run all day and had no problem at all, so it appears to me that the CRT is damaged in some way.

So here's my question: were those earlier weird colors at startup merely the first indication that the CRT was dying a natural death (albeit an early one, at only about 2.5 years old)? Or does the fact that this started happening shortly after I started also using the DVI output of the 9800 Pro suggest that the video card was confused by the presence of both monitors on startup and somehow damaged the CRT on its analog output? I'd like to know before I hook up a new flat screen monitor to the analog output and resume using the computer with dual monitors ... if the video card could be at fault, I really wouldn't want to give it a chance to destroy a 2nd monitor.

Thanks much for any opinions, experiences or advice you can offer.
 

DeadlyFreeze

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The only way I can conceivably think of for a video card to kill a monitor would be if your card automatically set your refresh rate to high. That could kill a monitor after a period of time.

In your case though it just sounds like your CRT is just kicking the bucket.
 

bigsnyder

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Did you go back to running just the CRT hooked up, and still experience problems?
 

mysticfm

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Originally posted by: bigsnyder
Did you go back to running just the CRT hooked up, and still experience problems?

That's a good point ... I'll try it as soon as I send this off.

UPDATE: Yep, the CRT is still acting up, even when connected all by itself. It didn't happen right away today, but after a couple of hours it is definitely screwing up.

If the card did set the refresh rate too high, could it have caused the strange colors that I originally saw?
 

DeadlyFreeze

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Originally posted by: mysticfm

If the card did set the refresh rate too high, could it have caused the strange colors that I originally saw?

No that wouldn't have screwed the colors up, I meant in prelude to what has happen about the refresh rate issue. It most likely didn't have anything to do with it and your CRT is just dying on its own.

If your feeling daring though you can crack open your CRT and clean any dust off your PCB board/tube. Its a long long long shot but I saved a few 19inch CRT's that way. They had been going pitch black for some odd reason, soon as I cleaned them out they worked perfectly.
 

mysticfm

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Originally posted by: DeadlyFreeze
If your feeling daring though you can crack open your CRT and clean any dust off your PCB board/tube. Its a long long long shot but I saved a few 19inch CRT's that way. They had been going pitch black for some odd reason, soon as I cleaned them out they worked perfectly.

I'd probably electrocute myself (even without having the monitor plugged in). :)

Seriously, I'll probably hold onto the CRT and try that sometime when I'm feeling brave ... I could always use it on an auxiliary machine if it does work. In the meantime I was already planning to transition to using a pair of LCD monitors by summer anyway (to keep my office a little cooler), so I'm going to go ahead and do that immediately.

Thanks for your input! Any other comments or experiences with this type of CRT behavior are still welcome.
 

bigsnyder

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If you do open it up, be careful around the flyback transformer. They can still store high voltage even after
being unplugged. You can easily discharge them, but that is more scary in itself.

 

mysticfm

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Originally posted by: bigsnyder
If you do open it up, be careful around the flyback transformer. They can still store high voltage even after
being unplugged. You can easily discharge them, but that is more scary in itself.

Thanks for the warning. I seemingly have bad luck whenever I mess around with hardware even in relatively innocuous ways, so I'll need to be doubly careful if I ever try this.