Backward hybrid from Volkswagon

[cmf21]

Kind of like it.

Hybrid

 

[nakedfrog]

Are you talking about the 31 mile all electric range? That'd be enough to get me to and from work every day.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

OK, Now aren't VW's non for crap electronics? And they want to make it more complex?

 

[Aharami]

sweet!

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Are you talking about the 31 mile all electric range? That'd be enough to get me to and from work every day.

Must have misread it as 31 mpg. Anyways, 31 miles isnt bad considering the Volt will be at 40 miles. I wonder what the actual mileage will be with the diesel engine.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
OK, Now aren't VW's non for crap electronics? And they want to make it more complex?

I thought that making something overly complex to the point of impracticality was the hallmark of German engineering.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Are you talking about the 31 mile all electric range? That'd be enough to get me to and from work every day.

Must have misread it as 31 mpg. Anyways, 31 miles isnt bad considering the Volt will be at 40 miles. I wonder what the actual mileage will be with the diesel engine.

My question is if the EV1 had a better range then either of these using lead acid batteries in the 1990s, why can't they at least get similar range out of a new car with better batteries?

 

[ViviTheMage]

That sounds sweet, I would be all over that!

What do they foresee the price range being?

also, whats it cost (electricity wise) to fully charge the battery from being dead?

If it dies off the battery, and goes to the diesel, then whats the MPG then?

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Are you talking about the 31 mile all electric range? That'd be enough to get me to and from work every day.

Must have misread it as 31 mpg. Anyways, 31 miles isnt bad considering the Volt will be at 40 miles. I wonder what the actual mileage will be with the diesel engine.

My question is if the EV1 had a better range then either of these using lead acid batteries in the 1990s, why can't they at least get similar range out of a new car with better batteries?

Well, the EV1 was only an electric car. The volt uses a gas engine to recharge batteries and runs it always on the electric motors, but it has a much better range than the EV1 and can be refueled anywhere.

 

[vi edit]

A plug in diesel hybrid that gets 30 miles on battery alone? I'm sold.

I'd use about 5 gallons of diesel a month in that case.

 

[Pantoot]

Originally posted by: vi edit
A plug in diesel hybrid that gets 30 miles on battery alone? I'm sold.

I'd use about 5 gallons of diesel a month in that case.

:thumbsup: I agree.

 

[randay]

too bad itll never come to the states.

 

[dsity]

Originally posted by: randay
too bad itll never come to the states.

a variation probably will

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: dsity

Originally posted by: randay
too bad itll never come to the states.

a variation probably will

yeah a 2.5l 5 cylinder petrol.

 

[thomsbrain]

The last time VW put batteries under the back seat, it was in the original Beetle, and if a fat person sat back there, the battery would short out and burn the car to the ground. And that was when VW was making its BEST electric systems. It's been downhill from there! 😉

So I'll reserve a healthy dose of skepticism both for their ability to make good on their promise and the long-term reliability of their systems.

 

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Are you talking about the 31 mile all electric range? That'd be enough to get me to and from work every day.

Must have misread it as 31 mpg. Anyways, 31 miles isnt bad considering the Volt will be at 40 miles. I wonder what the actual mileage will be with the diesel engine.

My question is if the EV1 had a better range then either of these using lead acid batteries in the 1990s, why can't they at least get similar range out of a new car with better batteries?

It's because it only had to carry the electric drive train. An engine and all the parts that go with it take up a huge amount of space and weight. A pure electric could pack all that space with batteries instead to get longer range.

I'd be interested in seeing how well it does.