Back from Vietnam

onlyCOpunk

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and boy was that place a dump. It has been way too tainted by the western world and the viatnamese will say anything to get money out of you.
 

onlyCOpunk

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ugh there was trash everywhere, and most of the places i visited had no charm that you would expect from a quaint asian town.
 

Pocatello

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Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
ugh there was trash everywhere, and most of the places i visited had no charm that you would expect from a quaint asian town.

Where did you go?
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
ugh there was trash everywhere, and most of the places i visited had no charm that you would expect from a quaint asian town.

No one ever says "Lovely as a poverty-stricken, post-colonial, post-communist, former war zone".
 

Pocatello

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
ugh there was trash everywhere, and most of the places i visited had no charm that you would expect from a quaint asian town.

No one ever says "Lovely as a poverty-stricken, post-communist, former war zone".

"post-communist"? I need to give my old man a call.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: Pocatello
Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
ugh there was trash everywhere, and most of the places i visited had no charm that you would expect from a quaint asian town.

No one ever says "Lovely as a poverty-stricken, post-communist, former war zone".

"post-communist"? I need to give my old man a call.

Well, they've lightened up a bit.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
and boy was that place a dump. It has been way too tainted by the western world and the viatnamese will say anything to get money out of you.

dude you must have misunderstood, if you gave the reach-around it would have SAVED you money.

fail.
 

jupiter57

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Did you piss on Uncle Ho's grave?
I remember posting a few years back that I would pay ($100?- $500?) for a pic of anyone doing so!
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: jupiter57
Did you piss on Uncle Ho's grave?
I remember posting a few years back that I would pay ($100?- $500?) for a pic of anyone doing so!

That would make my old man's day too.
 

Pocatello

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Originally posted by: jupiter57
Did you piss on Uncle Ho's grave?
I remember posting a few years back that I would pay ($100?- $500?) for a pic of anyone doing so!

There is a Ho Mausoleum, very heavily guarded. He's pickled like Lenin and Mao. Communist leaders are greatly loved, nobody wants to see their dear/great leaders buried. School children are taught to sing songs about their heroic deeds fighting the imperialists. I was quite fortunate to have gone through the process. Now America, you will have your chance with Obama.
 

WraithETC

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Sounds like a place trashed by the French and Americans and Chinese.

Cause we all know domino theory was right. /sarcasm

Not to say Communism is any better.
 

Pocatello

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
I GO BACK TO VIETNAM EVERY DAY MAN.....EVERY DAY.....

I would break into cold sweat every time I dream of going back. It's like a monster chasing me, no where to run, no place to hide.
 

Pocatello

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Originally posted by: WraithETC
Sounds like a place trashed by the French and Americans.

Cause we all know domino theory was right. /sarcasm

Not to say Communism is any better.

Not really. Nobody remember or care about the war anymore. Most signs of the Vietnam War is long gone, except in the museums.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
and boy was that place a dump. It has been way too tainted by the western world and the viatnamese will say anything to get money out of you.

"tainted by the West," eh?

Ever heard of communism?
 

Pocatello

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Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
and boy was that place a dump. It has been way too tainted by the western world and the viatnamese will say anything to get money out of you.

"tainted by the West," eh?

Ever heard of communism?

It's communism Chinese style. The Vietnam government is emulating the Chinese government. The Communist Party rules with an iron fist, but there is more freedom in commerce. Children of party members are sent to some of the best and most expensive colleges in America, to come back and replace their parents later on. They may sing songs about Lenin, but they don't want to go to Russia for an education anymore.
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: Farang
boo hoo stick to Disney World, Vietnam is awesome

Im interested to know more about your opinion. Did you actually visit or you from there? If so, please do share. :)

The owner of nearby convenience store is from there and he always speaks fondly of his homeland. My take from his stories is that a dollar goes pretty far over there.
 

onlyCOpunk

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Being a homeland it's fine. But when your 500 year old city suddenly has 5 star resorts popping up all over the place and the locals associate white with money, it loses charm fast.

And to see the "real vietnam" one has to pay a fair price, and when you're living off of $10/day, the fair price to see the untainted villages really blows a budget.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: Pocatello
Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
and boy was that place a dump. It has been way too tainted by the western world and the viatnamese will say anything to get money out of you.

"tainted by the West," eh?

Ever heard of communism?

It's communism Chinese style. The Vietnam government is emulating the Chinese government. The Communist Party rules with an iron fist, but there is more freedom in commerce. Children of party members are sent to some of the best and most expensive colleges in America, to come back and replace their parents later on. They may sing songs about Lenin, but they don't want to go to Russia for an education anymore.

Yes, true, I agree with what you're saying, it's not the sort of communism Stalin approved of, but the OP has to realize that the West is no more tainting of Vietnam than the Vietnamese were of themselves. The Southern and even Northern parts of Vietnam were once prosperous parts of the French empire. It wasn't a merry go round in regards to racial relationships, but it certainly was better than the Japanese treating everyone like garbage, and later the Chinese thugs helping out the Viet Cong and the NVA and terrorizing rural communities in both North and South Vietnam.