Baby Mama Want Daughter To Attend Christian School

[torpid]

Sounds expensive.

 

[SlitheryDee]

I wouldn't want my daughter in that school. The schools based on the more Evangelical brands of Christianity seem to contain the worst educational offenses of any of the religious schools. A modern catholic school would be better if it's got to be supported by a religious organization.

 

[dud]

send the kid to a madrassa instead

I hope you are joking because if not you are a flippin moron.

OP, ignore the village idiot ... your child will be fine. When the child gets older they will be better equipped to make their own decisions as to the direction their lilfe should take.

 

[AMDZen]

Second, I have no issue with pledge of allegiance, I take issue with a second pledge to the christian flag.

"I pledge allegiance to the Christian Flag and to the Savior for whose Kingdom it stands. One Savior, crucified, risen, and coming again with life and liberty to all who believe...."

Learn something new every day, never heard of that. I'm sure my cousins have to do the same they've just never mentioned it. Doesn't surprise me, they don't like talking creationism with me because they're left speechless.

 

[torpid]

I hope you are joking because if not you are a flippin moron.

OP, ignore the village idiot ... your child will be fine. When the child gets older they will be better equipped to make their own decisions as to the direction their lilfe should take.

Maybe, but she will also have a lot of misinformation swimming around in her head. What's the point of educating at this age if not to actually present somewhat accurate information?

 

[gorcorps]

She'll do fine. Because you are atheist your daughter has to be?

This is true. Taking her out of a christian school just because it's christian is just as bad as forcing her into your system.

Truth is that you can't make your own decisions until you're educated on both sides. I used to go to church a lot, and was even in extra stuff at the church but I eventually decided it was all BS.

Let her make her own mind up down the road.

 

[AMDZen]

I hope you are joking because if not you are a flippin moron.

OP, ignore the village idiot ... your child will be fine. When the child gets older they will be better equipped to make their own decisions as to the direction their lilfe should take.

Shouldn't it be the other way around? Schools should be teaching only facts and data as we currently understand it, its for the children to interpret that data as they wish later in life and to decide for themselves on the issue of god.

Science class doesn't teach that god doesn't exist like its a truth, so why is it OK for creationism to state it as a fact? God could have just as easily been responsible for the big bang, big bubble, or one of the other theories that gave rise to the beginning of our universe.

 

[Tobolo]

I went to a christian school and I know as much about evolution as anybody. It was my experience that most of the kids in the school were not christian, and several have gone to jail and we even have one the sends me her blog about the evils of religion every week (oh joy).

The real point of it is to get kids out of an education system that focuses on passing the kids along and into one that actually cares for the well being and future of the child.

It also doesn't hurt that violence, weapons, and drugs are usually less prevalent.

If having to explain to your daughter what evolution is at home is the worst you have to deal with, then it is probably worth to keep your daughter out of a failing public school system.

 

[pandrig]

I would look to see if the school is accredited by the state. The math reference looks like a home school supplier.

 

[zokudu]

I went to parochial school from Pre-K through 12th grade. I am religious but thats ym own choice. I learned more than most of the local neighborhood kids and am thankful that my parents shelled out the money for so many years. Private school still have to adhere to a curriculum that has to be published somewhere. Mine was available through the Dioceses of Trenton see if you can get a hold of that. Most have perfectly normal science programs. They almost are never loonies.

 

[ProfJohn]

Have you been to the school yourself and talked to teachers and staff??

Have you looked up and read about this science curriculum or looked at a few of the science books?

What grades is this for and what happens with high school?

What are the public schools in your area like?


Here are my thoughts:
1. She'll be in an environment where the parents will probably be wealthier than a public school.
2. The kids are more likely to come from two parent households (which is a good thing)
3. The parents are more likely to be involved in their children's lives.
4. There will be less drugs, sex and violence at the school.
5. There will be a lot less discipline problems than a public school.

And for all these good things you may have to spend more time with her teaching her to think for herself and question some of the things they teach. Teach her that the bible is a guide book on how to live you life rather than an instruction manual.

As for baby mama, I would approach it from the stand point of what school is going to provide the best education for your daughter and which school will best prepare her for life. Don't say "I don't want my daughter to be like you" say "I want my daughter to have the best education possible."


As for daughter and religion. If her mom is a Christian nut you will never be able to turn her into a hardcore atheist at 8 years old, especially if you don't live with her full time. The bond between daughter and mom will be to strong for that and even trying will only build barriers between you and her and her mom. Plus you don't want to be in a situation where the mom talks bad about you or thinks you are a negative influence on her daughter.

Your best course of action is to humor her mom, but teach your daughter the ability to doubt and to think for herself and then hope that she comes around to your way of thinking as she gets older.

 

[eits]

I don't care if she's religious, but I care if she thinks the world is 6000 years old and Jesus rode on a dinosaur. Which they in fact advocate at the school.

i think you're lying about that. if you were serious, then they wouldn't be academically excellent, as you claimed in your original post.

 

[ProfJohn]

I went to a parochial school

So are there pictures of you in the little school girl outfit? :hmm:

(I mean as an adult of course. Imagining Mosh dancing around to "Hit Me Baby One More Time")

 

[Jaepheth]

Even if you are Christian I would not send my children to a private christian school. I went to private Christian schools myself ("non-denominational", as in anything but catholic is welcomed). Many of the children are there because their parents demand it, they themselves do not want to be there. They aim to misbehave, but the system they're in demands they act like little angels. The result is an atmosphere filled with two-faced people. Drugs were actually more rampant in our school than the local public schools if my sources are correct, but it was better hidden. I've also heard rumors of inter-student sexual assaults being swept under the rug. Several male teachers and coaches were trusted with the female students far more than they should have been. And one teacher in particular was a lecherous creep (had a mail order bride half his age). Intolerance and misinformation flows from the faculty. And true critical thinking is not taught or encouraged. Academic dishonesty was also rampant; but that hardly mattered because good grades were easy to get legitimately. If a student were making poor grades, a parent could complain to the administration and usually get a grade altered or additional extra credit offered. (Bad grades aren't good for business)

I recommended my sister not send her children to a private Christian school even back when I still considered myself christian. There are few experiences more soul crushing available to developing children in the first world.

The movie "Saved!" is startlingly accurate.

 

[mattpegher]

But on a side note: you can have confidence that she will be in 'safe' environment, with kids from good moral backgrounds. This may cause her to be a little sheltered to the things of the world when she gets older, but that may be for the better. IMO there is nothing wrong with raising a kid with christian morals and teachings as long they are made to know that they should keep an open mind towards other ideas and philosophies on life.

I don't exactly agree with this, although with smaller class sizes the number of problem students will be less the population still tends to be similiar to that of public schools. You may only have one or two deliquents but they also have less targets to abuse.

As for the teaching of morals, I agree that religious teaching can be a strong framework to teach morals to children, the public system has been of late trying very hard to breach this subject in a non-religious context.

I will also say there is no such thing as christian morals, or muslim moral, or jewish morals, there is just morals. The Bible is a good example of stories of morality, but the lessons are more important than who teaches them. All of these lessons can and are being taught in non-religious context and do not change just because you may be of a particular metaphysical conviction (including atheism).

 

[eits]

this school seems less like a school and more like a training camp for christ's crusaders or something. your description of this school makes it seem like there is no room for the real world whatsoever and that all the kids would be allowed to know are biblical things.

pretty frigging radical/extremist. but, then again, you're hardcore about your religious faith, too. you said yourself you're a hardcore atheist. that, too, takes faith to believe in... so, could it be that maybe your faith is so strong against other religions that your description of the school might be a bit hyperbolic?

i have some friends who went to a private christian school... their curriculum wasn't like this.

 

[torpid]

i think you're lying about that. if you were serious, then they wouldn't be academically excellent, as you claimed in your original post.

He's embellishing a bit. Since the "science" curriculum mentions answers in genesis, the 6000 year old part is true. I don't see where he said they were academically excellent; he said specifically that the science curriculum is of concern.

 

[mattpegher]

Radical Creationism actually teaches that Dinosaurs didn't exist at all, their bones were put here to test our faith.

I have heard that argument from creationist before. It is just illogical that a creater god would place evidence to confuse its creation. Especially if you believe that this god is omnibenevolent.
If god put dinosaur bones in the earth and created the physics to enable use to place a date on the bones then god wants us to believe in evolution.
You can take that argument further and state that god created the universe 10 minutes ago, and created us to think that yesterday really happened.

 

[GWestphal]

Based on outbursts during a few arguments we had over the 8 years since then, I've assembled a theory on what had happened. The mother and I were never married. I apparently met her during a rebellious point in her life because she was not in the least bit religious during the 2 years we saw each other. She is a year older than myself and was the first girl I dated and by that time she had some sexual experience, whereas I was a virgin.

Timeline from what I can gather:
1. We meet and friendly date for about a year.

2. (From some outburst from her years later, I gather she was sleeping around at this point)

3. She asks when we're gonna start having sex. Me being naive am like we can start whenever I get some condoms.

4. She says don't worry I'm on birth control.

5. We begin a sexual relationship.

6. I'm ready to leave for a different city to attend university so our relationship is in question.

7. She bangs some going nowhere loser, then 2 days later bangs me still telling me she's on birth control. I find out about the other guy, because I asked her how she could be pregnant and how I was the father, in the heat of the moment, she apparently forgot her cover story, and says it couldn't be the other guy because she told him to pull out. I was referring to the birth control, and she says she knew she'd have to lie about some things to get me to stay and not leave for university.

8. I continue my life and go to university, after child is born paternity is determined. Mother goes ultra born again christian.

9. I get 1-3 hours per weekend with my daughter for the first 3 years or her life, even though I had to drive 6 hours to see her each time. I assume because the mother was bitter her plot didn't work. How born again you ask? Reading, "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" with Micky Mouse is heresy because it has the occult she screams at me.

10. I finally play hardball and have the court tell her I get my daughter for the entire weekends.

11. Mother asks if she can attend Prekindergarten at Christian school. I'm ok with this since it's basically day care. We establish that she will attend public school after.

12. Next year, she asks if she can attend Kindergarten, I'm not happy about this but because of some reorganization in the school district it is ok.

13. Next year, she wants her to attend 1st grade at Christian school. I say, "No, we talked about it already and agreed on public school. She says, "Well things change, and I want her to go there." I'm very upset about this.

14.Mother gets married.

15. Present situation.

 

[ProfJohn]

8 kids in your class? that's smaller than small.

A girl I lust after (sorry you aren't the only one) was in a class of 5.

She graduated 1st. The guy who finished 2nd got a full ride to Harvard. I would guess that the stupid guy who finished last would have been in the top 10 of most public schools.

It was a fancy Christian prep school that happened to be located in a small community.

BTW Charlotte has a $18,800 a year private school...

 

[GWestphal]

i think you're lying about that. if you were serious, then they wouldn't be academically excellent, as you claimed in your original post.

The original post is copied from the school website.

 

[Jaepheth]

One possible bit of advice....

Tell the mother to see about visiting one of the school's "chapel" sessions and to pay attention to how the children are or are not participating. If it is anything like my school, a true believer will get a sense of the place being "spiritually dead"

 

[jlee]

He's embellishing a bit. Since the "science" curriculum mentions answers in genesis, the 6000 year old part is true. I don't see where he said they were academically excellent; he said specifically that the science curriculum is of concern.

He didn't. Academic excellence is #4 on the school's list of values.

 

[highland145]

So she has already surpassed your education level then? I guess that's not terribly impressive anyway.

Shows that maybe you should discuss these kinds of things before you go sticking your wanker in people with vastly different beliefs than you.

I would be more concerned if she was going to a public school.

The Christian schools around here have a 95%+ graduation rate, while the public schools are below 80%.

Have you been to the school yourself and talked to teachers and staff??

Have you looked up and read about this science curriculum or looked at a few of the science books?

What grades is this for and what happens with high school?

What are the public schools in your area like?


Here are my thoughts:
1. She'll be in an environment where the parents will probably be wealthier than a public school.
2. The kids are more likely to come from two parent households (which is a good thing)
3. The parents are more likely to be involved in their children's lives.
4. There will be less drugs, sex and violence at the school.
5. There will be a lot less discipline problems than a public school.

And for all these good things you may have to spend more time with her teaching her to think for herself and question some of the things they teach. Teach her that the bible is a guide book on how to live you life rather than an instruction manual.

As for baby mama, I would approach it from the stand point of what school is going to provide the best education for your daughter and which school will best prepare her for life. Don't say "I don't want my daughter to be like you" say "I want my daughter to have the best education possible."


As for daughter and religion. If her mom is a Christian nut you will never be able to turn her into a hardcore atheist at 8 years old, especially if you don't live with her full time. The bond between daughter and mom will be to strong for that and even trying will only build barriers between you and her and her mom. Plus you don't want to be in a situation where the mom talks bad about you or thinks you are a negative influence on her daughter.

Your best course of action is to humor her mom, but teach your daughter the ability to doubt and to think for herself and then hope that she comes around to your way of thinking as she gets older.

These, quoted in case you missed them.

<---kid goes to a private Christian school.

 

[classy]

Well I can quickly see why you two aren't together, lol. Most catholic/christian schools consistently out perform public schools. So from a learning standpoint the mother's choice is probably not a bad one. For you though, to sit in judgement of someone else because you think you are better based solely on the fact she believes in religion and you don't explains a lot. Is your child happy? Well Adjusted? All I have read is you not liking religion, which ain't a good enough excuse.

All these retarded posts are baseless. I wish I could afford to send my kid to some of these schools. These schools are among the best teaching in the country. And I find highly and I do mean highly unlikely most of these schools have drugs running rampant.