Azureus? Realllly Slow Download Speeds

ikickpigeons

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Hello, Im new to this torrent stuff as you can tell. Ive tried the original bit torrent client and i did download a file. So i had succes with it. Im currently downloading files on Azureus and so far i like it better than the original bittorrent client. The problem is that the download speeds are ridiculously slow. Or maybe this is how fast torrents go? Currently its jumping around between 1.5-3.0 kb/s. So what am i doing wrong? Im using a router so does that have anything to do with it?
 

UlricT

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have you forwarded your ports? I'm sure you have not.. google it. There is a ton of info out there on how to do it. Some torrents require specific ports to be forwarded... so watch out for that.
 

ikickpigeons

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ports? Im sorry but when it comes to computer stuff the only things i know are games and hardware. So please explain what ports are and why does this affect it?
 

ikickpigeons

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Ok i just whent through configuring Azureus and im using port 6881. So in the configuration utility thingy, did i do port forwarding? Please help me, this is getting frustrationg now. 2.0 kb/s is horrible. Is it my computer or internet?
 

SleepWalkerX

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1) Port forward 6881 to your router (and maybe modem if your modem has nat capabilities). This site should help.
2) Cap your upload speed to about 80% of your maximum upload speed.

Things should speed up.
 

ikickpigeons

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ok ive cruised the net and i know that i have a NAT problem. I have already done good settings by finding my upspeed and downspeed and making the correct adjustments. So i have that covered, but i cannot fix my NAT problem. I think my java might be another problem too. Im currently running version 1.5 with update 4. Do i really need update 5? And if i do do i have to unistall java completly, reboot, and then do the registry cleanup and finally the fresh instal? Ive tried to fix my nat problem but i cant. Ive spent a good hour or so on it. I did get minor success. My torrent is running at 5.5 kb/s instead of 1.2.
 

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Originally posted by: ikickpigeons
ok ive cruised the net and i know that i have a NAT problem. I have already done good settings by finding my upspeed and downspeed and making the correct adjustments. So i have that covered, but i cannot fix my NAT problem. I think my java might be another problem too. Im currently running version 1.5 with update 4. Do i really need update 5? And if i do do i have to unistall java completly, reboot, and then do the registry cleanup and finally the fresh instal? Ive tried to fix my nat problem but i cant. Ive spent a good hour or so on it. I did get minor success. My torrent is running at 5.5 kb/s instead of 1.2.


You have a router? To fix the NAT problem, you will have to go to the routers configuration pages to forward port 6881 to allow TCP/UDP to go to your internal IP. Most routers have a page that will allow you to do this fairly easy, you just have to find your IP, it can be found several ways. You can check your DHCP clients table on your router pages, or if you have the network connection icon in your system tray you can right click and select status(or double click on it), and then click the support tab, it will tell you your IP. Depending on your router (some allow port ranges and some don't) you will need to put this IP in the port forwarding settings, as well as the ports you want to forward; In this case 6881 (this setting is called virtual server on Belkin routers, not sure about others). I have never used Azureus, or any Java software for that matter, but I know that Bittornado lets you know if it is being firewalled. I imagine Azureus does this too, not sure though.
Good luck, and you might want to try better torrent software...
 

ikickpigeons

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so all i need to do is forward my router? and that will fix the NAT problem??? What are the average speeds for bit torrent clients?
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: ikickpigeons
so all i need to do is forward my router? and that will fix the NAT problem???

That's about as ghetto a way there is to phrase it, but yes. Forward the port to your desktop and you might see speed improvements.

What are the average speeds for bit torrent clients?

It depends.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: ikickpigeons
But is 5.0KB/s on average normal for bit torrent? the fastest I have gotten is 12 KB/s.

It depends. How many seeders? Is it a popular torrent? Are the seeders restricting their uploads a LOT? Any number of factors can play a part.

The best you can do is forward the ports, make sure they're working (I think azureus has a dialogue to check this), and pray.

I've seen anything from a couple of bits/s to a few hundred kilobytes/s.
 

BlueWeasel

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: ikickpigeons
But is 5.0KB/s on average normal for bit torrent? the fastest I have gotten is 12 KB/s.

It depends. How many seeders? Is it a popular torrent? Are the seeders restricting their uploads a LOT? Any number of factors can play a part.

The best you can do is forward the ports, make sure they're working (I think azureus has a dialogue to check this), and pray.

I've seen anything from a couple of bits/s to a few hundred kilobytes/s.

Exactly...it's all a matter of that particular torrent. I've seen some torrents with plenty of seeders creep along at 5kbps even though my router and ports setup is correct. Other, more popular torrents (like Linux distrobutions) sometimes hit 600kbps.
 

ikickpigeons

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omg 600kbs!!! damn. Ok well im working on the port forawarding thing, i think i almost understnad it now. but one more question. Should i update my Java??? also can you guys explain this seed/peer thing. I dont understand it. Is a seed a person who is uploading it to me? And is a peer someone who is also downloading it?
 

Continuity28

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Originally posted by: ikickpigeons
omg 600kbs!!! damn. Ok well im working on the port forawarding thing, i think i almost understnad it now. but one more question. Should i update my Java??? also can you guys explain this seed/peer thing. I dont understand it. Is a seed a person who is uploading it to me? And is a peer someone who is also downloading it?

A seed is someone who has 100% of the torrent, and are only uploading to others. A peer is everyone else.

Also, the reason nobody can give you a clear answer on speeds is because of all the variables. Torrents rely on other people. There must either be many people distributing, or at least enough people that have high upload speeds available to you.

As it's been said, beyond port forwarding and upload restrictions, there's not much thats in your hands as far as speed. The reason you should restrict your upload is because the two are linked, if you max out your upload, you'll have a slow download speed. Also, if you max your upload, you can kiss anything else you use the internet for goodbye, websites will take forever to load and most things will fail to work well. You always need some upload bandwidth for anything you do online. The internet is an exchange, nothing is one way.

Your java version isn't important. If you still experience problems, it's generally because of the torrent itself.
 

ikickpigeons

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ok. thanks Continuity28 for clearing that up for me. So i guess i need to do this port forwarding thing. When i do port forwarding is it for one application or is it for my whole computer? Lets say i run another torrent client, would i have to do port forwarding again? Thanks guys a lot for the help.
 

Continuity28

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If you use the same port (in this case 6881), you'll never have to forward it again after the first time, unless you change routers or the settings somehow get overwritten.

I believe torrents use both TCP and UDP protocols, so make sure you forward TCP 6881 and UDP 6881.
 

0roo0roo

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thoguht it was ports 6881-6999 that needed to be forwarded

and yes, speeds depend on swarm. if you've set it up correctly the icons will be green. read the faqs.
 

Continuity28

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Originally posted by: ikickpigeons
Before I do port forwarding, I need to set up static IP adresses right?

Your internal IP is always static, it doesn't matter what your external IP is.

Your internal IP is something between 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 or 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 or 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255.

That is static and doesn't change unless you force it to, and that's all you reall need to know for port forwarding.

Go to the command prompt and type "ipconfig" - that will show you your internal IP address that you forward ports to.
 

ikickpigeons

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Well, to give you a little background of what exactly is going on. My father's work relies on relying information back and forth from multiple servers. So he had a programmer come and set up a bunch of ******. And since my computer is also hooked up to the network and my computer is connect directly to the router. I need to back track through a lot of things, and make sure that i dont screw up my dad's work. So its a little more complicated than what it is for other people. I need to find out if i have a static ip address because i probably do but i dont know what it is since i didnt set it up.
 

Continuity28

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Step 1: Go to the command prompt and type "ipconfig". (EXAMPLE: It says your internal IP address is 192.168.1.34)

Step 2: Go to the router's settings for 192.168.1.34 (or your computer name), and forward TCP/UDP port 6881.

That's all really. That won't interfere with anything.