Awwww Republicans are leading us astray

dmcowen674

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1-31-2004 Governments in D.C., Hall both are leading us astray

There is very little about the present administrations, both local and national, with which I agree.

In less than four years we have gone from a fiscal surplus to a $5.7 trillion deficit. We are engaged in a war that we started based on lies and misrepresentation from the highest officials of our government. Everyday, our soldiers are being killed in the name of anti-terrorism when in fact there is not now, nor has there ever been a connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida. In fact, just the opposite is the true relationship. Saddam would not allow any group he did not control to operate in Iraq.

Meanwhile, at home we have lost 2.5 million manufacturing jobs and sent them to Asia. Companies are exporting service jobs to India and other countries daily and this administration is OK with this. Our economy is the worst since the Great Depression of the 1930s, yet this administration responds by giving huge tax breaks to millionaires and special non-competitive considerations of business to Vice President Dick Cheney's former company, Halliburton. What is wrong with this picture?

This administration came to office promising less government and less tax. At $5.7 trillion, our grandchildren will still be paying these bills for the forseeable future. In fact, by continuing this course, we are denying them a just future. This administration, which is sworn to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution has done just the opposite.

At this very moment, this government has two U.S. born citizens in custody for almost 18 months. They have not been charged officially nor brought to court, and evidence against them has not been presented. What kind of government is this? What truth is this administration afraid of hearing in an open court?

If they can deny two citizens their basic Constitutional rights, then they can do the same to you and me. There is no justification for our judicial system to operate in secret (Hitler and Stalin operated this way). If you believe we are a country of law, then we must live and follow the law. This cowboy administration is no exception.

Locally, taxpayers approved an $8 million courthouse. We have one now about $21 million. Were we lied to about the real cost? Why? Who received the contracts for construction?

Don't look for answers from the current county commissioners. They have made a mockery of good government and serving the interests of the public. I think they serve only their ideological agenda and don't care what the public thinks or wants.

No, I am not happy with what is going on in this country. I don't understand why 60 percent (current polls) support this administration. I believe this is the worst administration since Herbert Hoover and they are leading us into an abyss that will take decades from which to recover. And they want to go to Mars? The only thing that is going to Mars is common sense and our back pockets.

Where are the Democrats?

Donald W. DeLany

Murrayville

 

Ldir

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Why do you post this junk? It makes us look bad. He does not even know the difference between debt and deficit.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Ldir
Why do you post this junk? It makes us look bad. He does not even know the difference between debt and deficit.

And we've had a national debt since 1969. So people's grandkids have been paying it for awhile. However, the deficit is still only 4.2% of GDP and the national debt is 7 trillion. Why does he post this junk? Why does Dave post anything like this? Attention.
 

Genesys

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Everyday, our soldiers are being killed in the name of anti-terrorism when in fact there is not now, nor has there ever been a connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida

so? the President didnt say this was going to be a war agains al Qaeda, now did he? he said it was going to be a war on terrorism, and Saddam did have connections to terrorists.
 

gsaldivar

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Why does he post this junk? Why does Dave post anything like this? Attention.

It's just Chicken Little making his regular rounds....

Nothing more to see here people... move along... :D:beer:

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Genesys
Everyday, our soldiers are being killed in the name of anti-terrorism when in fact there is not now, nor has there ever been a connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida

so? the President didnt say this was going to be a war agains al Qaeda, now did he? he said it was going to be a war on terrorism, and Saddam did have connections to terrorists.
Doesn't the Real Bush have connections with the Bin Laden Family in SA?
 

Moonbeam

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Conservatives in Iran have barred liberals from running for office. We have here the Republican Iatola party also in control. Like in Iran, if we can't have light and freedom from religious dogma, we will have revolution. They are simply farther down the slope than we. It's only a matter of time. We create what we fear.
 

FrodoB

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Conservatives in Iran have barred liberals from running for office. We have here the Republican Iatola party also in control. Like in Iran, if we can't have light and freedom from religious dogma, we will have revolution. They are simply farther down the slope than we. It's only a matter of time. We create what we fear.


You're a typical tunnel vision brainwashed liberal. Your party wants to force their warped policies on the rest. Conservatives in Iran have absolutely no similarities to conservatives in ths country.
 

Moonbeam

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Christian Fundamentalists Reject Comparison with Taliban

EDITOR?S NOTE: Robert Parham, executive director of the Baptist Center for Ethics, Nashville, Tenn., wrote these columns as a two-part series on www.EthicsDaily.com

By Robert Parham

Christian Fundamentalists have expressed anger and hurt at being compared to the Taliban.

James Lambert, a contributing writer for AgapePress, said, ?Conservative Christian leaders are appalled by such labeling.?

AgapePress describes itself as a news service which ?focuses on issues that have moral, social, and political implications, and is written from a Christian perspective you cannot find in the secular world.? Its news articles appear on the Web sites of the Christian Coalition, Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission and Family Policy Network.

Lambert referred to columns in the San Francisco Examiner and New York Times that compared Christian right extremists to Islamic terrorists. He also cited MSNBC?s news show ?Hardball,? in which host Chris Matthews said that one of Osama bin Laden?s videotapes sounded ?like the Islamic version of the 700 Club,? a Pat Robertson sponsored TV program.

The next day, Baptist Press, the communications arm of the Southern Baptist Convention, carried an article in which Richard Land, an SBC leader also attacked the ?liberal media? for comparing Christians with Afghani Islamists.

?The idea of equating Americans?who for moral and religious reasons have grave concerns and objections about cloning and then killing babies to harvest their issue? with the Taliban in Afghanistan is outrageous,? said Land.

Earlier in January, Land accused the Democratic Party of religious intolerance because of its alleged plan to compare American religious conservatives to the Taliban. He also criticized President George W. Bush for not backing conservative Christians. Land said, ?If he is going to defend Muslims in this country, he needs to defend Christians as well from these kinds of outrageous attacks.?

Others within the religious right have also expressed their sense of persecution

.In the February issue of National Liberty Journal, Jerry Falwell wrote, ?In America conservative people of faith continue to be the only group that can be rigorously denounced and persecuted without the American Civil Liberties Union stepping in to defend them.?

?It has become fashionable to detest and denounce Christians because we adhere to true and defining biblical standards,? Falwell wrote.

Following their controversial comments blaming certain Americans for the terrorist attacks, Falwell and Robertson were compared frequently with Islamic Fundamentalism.

TomPaine.com carried a picture of both leaders of the religious right beneath large letters that read, ?American Taliban.? The accompanying article said, ?Falwell and Robertson sound like the American Taliban.?

Scott Simon, host of National Public Radio?s ?Weekend Edition,? made a similar comparison, referring to ?the Revs. Robertson and Falwell and the mullahs of the Taliban.?

In a compilation of newspaper editorials about Falwell and Robertson, Americans United for Separation of Church and State titled the piece ?America?s Taliban?

?Writing for the New York Times Magazine, Andrew Sullivan said the war on terrorism was not a religious war in terms of Islam versus Christianity.

?Rather, it is a war of Fundamentalism against faiths of all kinds that are at peace with freedom and modernity,? he wrote. ?This war even has far gentler echoes in America?s own religious conflict?between newer, more virulent strands of Christian Fundamentalism and mainstream Protestantism and Catholicism.?

Comparing Islamic and Christian Fundamentalists is not new.

What is new is the global shift away from tolerating religious intolerance and extremism. With Bush leading the way, the global community is pivoting quickly toward an ethos of pluralism and progress. Such an ethos rejects the arrogant fanaticism of Fundamentalism with its virulent opposition to the modern world.

In a world that values pluralism and devalues Fundamentalism, Christian Fundamentalists lose their support base. What they fear is even more loss of power and access. Their best defense is to attack those who compare them to the Taliban and to cry victim, hoping their expressions of outrage will slow the erosion of toleration for religious intolerance.





 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genesys
Everyday, our soldiers are being killed in the name of anti-terrorism when in fact there is not now, nor has there ever been a connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida

so? the President didnt say this was going to be a war agains al Qaeda, now did he? he said it was going to be a war on terrorism, and Saddam did have connections to terrorists.
Doesn't the Real Bush have connections with the Bin Laden Family in SA?

i dont know, but hasnt the bin Laden family in saudi arabia essentially kicked osama out of the family? they dont him any more because they see him as a disgrace, or something like that.
 

robh23

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
1-31-2004 Governments in D.C., Hall both are leading us astray

There is very little about the present administrations, both local and national, with which I agree.

In less than four years we have gone from a fiscal surplus to a $5.7 trillion deficit. We are engaged in a war that we started based on lies and misrepresentation from the highest officials of our government. Everyday, our soldiers are being killed in the name of anti-terrorism when in fact there is not now, nor has there ever been a connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida. In fact, just the opposite is the true relationship. Saddam would not allow any group he did not control to operate in Iraq.

Meanwhile, at home we have lost 2.5 million manufacturing jobs and sent them to Asia. Companies are exporting service jobs to India and other countries daily and this administration is OK with this. Our economy is the worst since the Great Depression of the 1930s, yet this administration responds by giving huge tax breaks to millionaires and special non-competitive considerations of business to Vice President Dick Cheney's former company, Halliburton. What is wrong with this picture?

This administration came to office promising less government and less tax. At $5.7 trillion, our grandchildren will still be paying these bills for the forseeable future. In fact, by continuing this course, we are denying them a just future. This administration, which is sworn to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution has done just the opposite.

At this very moment, this government has two U.S. born citizens in custody for almost 18 months. They have not been charged officially nor brought to court, and evidence against them has not been presented. What kind of government is this? What truth is this administration afraid of hearing in an open court?

If they can deny two citizens their basic Constitutional rights, then they can do the same to you and me. There is no justification for our judicial system to operate in secret (Hitler and Stalin operated this way). If you believe we are a country of law, then we must live and follow the law. This cowboy administration is no exception.

Locally, taxpayers approved an $8 million courthouse. We have one now about $21 million. Were we lied to about the real cost? Why? Who received the contracts for construction?

Don't look for answers from the current county commissioners. They have made a mockery of good government and serving the interests of the public. I think they serve only their ideological agenda and don't care what the public thinks or wants.

No, I am not happy with what is going on in this country. I don't understand why 60 percent (current polls) support this administration. I believe this is the worst administration since Herbert Hoover and they are leading us into an abyss that will take decades from which to recover. And they want to go to Mars? The only thing that is going to Mars is common sense and our back pockets.

Where are the Democrats?

Donald W. DeLany

Murrayville

you are too simple to vote, at least you are in a republican state!