Awww...crap....I messed up :(

[Gibson486]

Cliffs:

-Company recruiter emailed...told me to submit resume. Position looked like it could fit me well, so I submitted it. After a week, no one called, so I just assumed they were not interested and forgot about it.
-About another week later, an external recruiter (head hunter) called me. He said he had this great position that he thought I would be a great fit for. I was literally out the door going to a network event, so I could not get details at that time. I said, yeah, I am interested.
-Well, the external recruiter, for the past week and a half, has said the manager has my resume and wants to bring me in. I said OK, let me know when he wants to see me.
-I did some digging today, found the description on his website (he never sent it to me). the description sounded very familiar. Looks like that the position is actually the same one the internal recruiter told me to apply for.

I am guessing this means I am an automatic no go? Maybe that is why they are so hesitant to bring me in. They do not want to deal with a war on who gets paid?

 

[DesiPower]

So you worried coz you resume is submitted twice? HR has very strict policies about that, depends on the HR people, 99% chances are you ARE fvcked.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Just tell the external recruiter that you already submitted your resume for this position via your internal recruiter. Surely you have e-mails to back that up?

It's funny, when I was looking for a job I had met with a bunch of local placement agencies and I kept getting calls from different agencies about the same job. It got so that as they were describing the position to me I'd just stop them and ask what company it was for. Sure enough, it was the same job. I'd tell them sorry, but I'm already working with another recruiter on that position.

I actually did get an offer from that company about the same time I accepted an offer with the company I work for now.

 

[Wyndru]

They would probably rather have you come in under an external recruiter since they can let you go whenever they want. They might not have to pay you benefits through the external recruiter as well.

So your chances might be good, but you will probably get paid less with less bennies.

 

[DesiPower]

yeah, they CAN technically withdraw the application, but it might already be too late.

 

[arcenite]

Be honest with the recruiter and ask him how to proceed

 

[Gibson486]

I emailed the guy. I hope he is not pissed. It just didn't click. he told me the location of the company, and i just did not put 1 and 1 together until today. I have applied to so many jobs, that I have to keep it on an excel sheet to keep track. I never bothered to make a mental note of this job since it is in the military field and I have never had luck with those types of companies. So, I just applied and said if they do not contact me by the end of the week, I'll just forget it. And yeah, I forgot it

 

[Schfifty Five]

Cliffs:

-Company recruiter emailed...told me to submit resume. Position looked like it could fit me well, so I submitted it. After a week, no one called, so I just assumed they were not interested and forgot about it.
-About another week later, an external recruiter (head hunter) called me. He said he had this great position that he thought I would be a great fit for. I was literally out the door going to a network event, so I could not get details at that time. I said, yeah, I am interested.
-Well, the external recruiter, for the past week and a half, has said the manager has my resume and wants to bring me in. I said OK, let me know when he wants to see me.
-I did some digging today, found the description on his website (he never sent it to me). the description sounded very familiar. Looks like that the position is actually the same one the internal recruiter told me to apply for.

I am guessing this means I am an automatic no go? Maybe that is why they are so hesitant to bring me in. They do not want to deal with a war on who gets paid?

Why did you need to say "Cliffs" at the top if you were going to end up writing multiple sentences for each "bullet" point?

 

[Gibson486]

Why did you need to say "Cliffs" at the top if you were going to end up writing multiple sentences for each "bullet" point?

because I felt like it.

 

[dougp]

Depends. I had this same issue when I applied to a company, had my interview and they felt I wasn't qualified for the position (higher level) but thought I would be fine at a lower one - didn't take it because of pay. A month later a head hunter contacts me and turns out to be the exact same position - I explained that I had already applied and interviewed, but was rejected. The head hunter approached the company and asked what happened, etc. and if they were willing to look at me again. You could take that approach, doesn't hurt - worst you can be told is no.

 

[Farang]

You don't sound like you have enough info to know if this was even the same req. If you were double submitted, the company likely would tell the agency right away and then you'd get a phone call asking what happened. This leads me to believe one of two things:
1) headhunter is being shady
2) company didn't care/notice or it was a different req

Typically it would not get to the stage where a manager is asking to interview you, if this were an issue.

One thing you could do better is be more selective with who you work with, and to where your resume is submitted.

I would not explicitly ask to be removed from the recruiter's representation. If they are honest they will back off if they know it is necessary. If it isn't necessary, it is the external dude who has wasted a week and a half trying to get you an interview (and got your resume noticed in the first place).

 

[AreaCode707]

This really isn't your problem and won't affect your chances of getting the job. Give the recruiter a heads-up but then don't sweat it.

Generally policy is that if an external recruiter submits a candidate that is already in the system the external recruiter simply doesn't get credit for it, cannot collect any commission. That doesn't affect the company's decision to hire the candidate, just is baked into the contract with the headhunting agency.

I deploy applicant tracking systems for a living. Our ATS actually has an agency portal that does automatic duplicate checking whenever a headhunter submits a candidate, and each candidate submitted by the headhunter is tracked as belonging to that agency for whatever period of time the agency agreement states.

Nobody assumes the candidate has any visibility into this process at all, and the candidate does not have any responsibility whatsoever. This is between the company and the headhunter.

 

[AreaCode707]

So you worried coz you resume is submitted twice? HR has very strict policies about that, depends on the HR people, 99% chances are you ARE fvcked.

This is utterly ridiculous. Nobody has a policy about double submission of resumes, not in the dozens of companies I've worked with. If you're obviously creating duplicate accounts to circumvent the system and deliberately submitting yourself repeatedly to the same jobs they will start to recognize you're an idiot and disqualify you when they see you, but that's totally different.