lxskllr

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I never used bob, but the idea's always fascinated me. I'd love to see it done again with modern standards. I doubt I'd use it as a primary interface, but I could see loading it every so often for kicks. I wish I could program. That's something I'd be interested in tackling myself(for gnu/linux of course)
 
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jhansman

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Seriously. I don't use the Cupertino products, but as a MS user since 1988, I can say with gusto that Windows has matured nicely. Just my $.02
 

Red Squirrel

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I never used bob, but the idea's always fascinated me. I'd love to see it done again with modern standards. I doubt I'd use it as a primary interface, but I could see loading it every so often for kicks. I wish I could program. That's something I'd be interested in tackling myself(for gnu/linux of course)

Could use something like Clippy in Linux too. "It looks like you're trying to compile from source!" :D


Speaking of horrible UIs, I absolutely cannot stand Windows 10's UI. The fact that it's so white, the buttons, elements etc are so freaking huge for nothing, and fact that there is no clear definition between different elements. No borders, or color changes, just white everywhere. Worse is you can't even customize anything. Even in windows 3.1 you could change the color of title bar, borders, foreground, background, text etc...

Linux does have it's own issue with UIs though, I find that it can get glitchy depending on the distro. Like in Mint there's lot of weird glitchy stuff sometimes like dialogs that are too small and you have to resize to see all the buttons, and other annoyances like that. Part of the issue is there's not really any standardization for GUI coding in Linux so you can get weird issues all depending on the application/distro and it will not always be the same. They've come a long way though.
 

Red Squirrel

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Still a pain though, should not have to install a bunch of 3rd party utilities just to make the UI half decent. I always install Classic Shell on any windows 8/10 system I see though. But it does not really fix the UI itself but it fixes the start menu. The start menu in 10 is practically useless and just full of ads that you have to manually remove. At least there actually *IS* a start menu though. :p
 

bruceb

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Use the Winaerotweaker ... you can customize all sorts of stuff with it .. Personally I also hate these trash UI's on just about everything, from the Ribbon in MS Office (harder to find what you want to do), the new & unimproved Yahoo Email, the crappy Windows 10 look (especially if you do not turn off Tiles and don't go back to a normal, classic start menu) .. This crap is getting too bland and idiotic ... They should make a UI just for mobile devices and a normal one for desktop or laptop use.
 

Red Squirrel

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Ugh yeah I hate the office ribbon crap too. We got "upgraded" from 2003 at work a few years back and I still find myself hunting around trying to find stuff. I don't know what's the point of changing stuff to make it harder to find options. Seems to be a trend these days.
 

amd6502

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Speaking of horrible UIs, I absolutely cannot stand Windows 10's UI. The fact that it's so white, the buttons, elements etc are so freaking huge for nothing, and fact that there is no clear definition between different elements. No borders, or color changes, just white everywhere. Worse is you can't even customize anything. Even in windows 3.1 you could change the color of title bar, borders, foreground, background, text etc...

Linux does have it's own issue with UIs though [.....]

It's the tablet style interface Win10 inherited from Win8. It's a bit of an improvement of W8 but still pretty bad. I like though that they finally adopted multiple workspaces from linux.


And, here is something I hope linux ecosystem adopts from win10---in fact, they should have beat MS to it years ago, that File/ApplicationMenubar should be merged with TitleBar if the width of the window allows it.
 

Shamrock

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Win10, Win8 and 8.1, and KDE all three look like Kylie (4 yr old asian girl from Win 7 commercial), designed the UI on them. Flat and ugly. Can't stand them. And yes, I know you can use themes.

It's one of the many reasons I am still on Win7, and Xfce.