Aw, Poppy Bush is mad at left for picking on his son...

JKing106

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What's ironic is Bush Sr. set the stage for the current state of cable news when he employed Roger Ailes and Lee Atwater, the spiritual mentors to Karl Rove. These are the people who ran the Willie Horton ads. Look it up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...lbermann_n_324466.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton

The first person to mention the Massachusetts furlough program in the 1988 presidential campaign was Al Gore. During a debate at the Felt Forum sponsored by the New York Daily News, Gore took issue with the furlough program. However, he did not specifically mention the Horton incident or even mention Horton's name, instead asking a general question about the Massachusetts furlough program.[6]
Republicans picked up the Horton issue after Dukakis clinched the nomination. In June 1988, Republican candidate George H.W. Bush seized on the Horton case, bringing it up repeatedly in campaign speeches.[6] Bush's campaign manager, Lee Atwater, predicted that "by the time this election is over, Willie Horton will be a household name."[6][7] Media consultant Roger Ailes remarked "the only question is whether we depict Willie Horton with a knife in his hand or without it."[8]

Came back and bit ya in the ass, didn't it, Poppy?
 

0marTheZealot

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He should pissed at his son for ruining the Bush name, not to mention running America into the ground in 8 years.
 

Skitzer

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Originally posted by: JKing106
What's ironic is Bush Sr. set the stage for the current state of cable news when he employed Roger Ailes and Lee Atwater, the spiritual mentors to Karl Rove. These are the people who ran the Willie Horton ads. Look it up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...lbermann_n_324466.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton

The first person to mention the Massachusetts furlough program in the 1988 presidential campaign was Al Gore. During a debate at the Felt Forum sponsored by the New York Daily News, Gore took issue with the furlough program. However, he did not specifically mention the Horton incident or even mention Horton's name, instead asking a general question about the Massachusetts furlough program.[6]
Republicans picked up the Horton issue after Dukakis clinched the nomination. In June 1988, Republican candidate George H.W. Bush seized on the Horton case, bringing it up repeatedly in campaign speeches.[6] Bush's campaign manager, Lee Atwater, predicted that "by the time this election is over, Willie Horton will be a household name."[6][7] Media consultant Roger Ailes remarked "the only question is whether we depict Willie Horton with a knife in his hand or without it."[8]

Came back and bit ya in the ass, didn't it, Poppy?

Oh yeah ..... that one incident caused cable news to deteriorate into the biased partisan garbage that it is today. Give me a break.
Lay it all at the feet of Bush senior, nobody else participated in the downfall of cable news.
I'm not a Bush fan but I'll say that there were a whole lot of players involved besides him.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: Skitzer
Originally posted by: JKing106
What's ironic is Bush Sr. set the stage for the current state of cable news when he employed Roger Ailes and Lee Atwater, the spiritual mentors to Karl Rove. These are the people who ran the Willie Horton ads. Look it up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...lbermann_n_324466.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton

The first person to mention the Massachusetts furlough program in the 1988 presidential campaign was Al Gore. During a debate at the Felt Forum sponsored by the New York Daily News, Gore took issue with the furlough program. However, he did not specifically mention the Horton incident or even mention Horton's name, instead asking a general question about the Massachusetts furlough program.[6]
Republicans picked up the Horton issue after Dukakis clinched the nomination. In June 1988, Republican candidate George H.W. Bush seized on the Horton case, bringing it up repeatedly in campaign speeches.[6] Bush's campaign manager, Lee Atwater, predicted that "by the time this election is over, Willie Horton will be a household name."[6][7] Media consultant Roger Ailes remarked "the only question is whether we depict Willie Horton with a knife in his hand or without it."[8]

Came back and bit ya in the ass, didn't it, Poppy?

Oh yeah ..... that one incident caused cable news to deteriorate into the biased partisan garbage that it is today. Give me a break.
Lay it all at the feet of Bush senior, nobody else participated in the downfall of cable news.
I'm not a Bush fan but I'll say that there were a whole lot of players involved besides him.

Yeah Roger Alles and Lee Atwater like the article above states.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: loki8481
so, Bush ran a negative campaign ad once that that invalidates anything he ever says?

Are you reading the op's article he posted?
 

nobodyknows

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Reminds me of a story a Korean War veteran once told me. He had gotten his hands on a night vision sniper scope and was having great fun sniping the enemy with it until someone informed him that the Koreans had night vision scopes also.
 

ProfJohn

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It is amazing how the Huffington Post took Bush's attack on the tone of the media and turned it into a left v right thing.

Read the source of the Post from CBS.

He started by saying that Obama is entitled to civil treatment and then he mentioned how his son was treated.
Former President George H.W. Bush told CBS News that President Obama "is entitled to civil treatment and intellectual honesty when it comes to critics."

Referring to the tone of national discourse he said, "I don't like it. The cables (TV) have a lot to do with it."

In the radio interview, Mr. Bush said the volume of criticism aimed at him when he was president was not as "day in and day out."

The Republican elder statesman said, "It's not just the right." He complained, "there are plenty of people on the left."

While he said he does not believe in personal name-calling, he singled out MSNBC personalities Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow calling them "sick puppies."

"The way they treat my son and anyone who's opposed to their point of view is just horrible," Mr. Bush said.

"When our son was president they just hammered him mercilessly and I think obscenely a lot of the time and now it's moved to a new president," he added.

With a chuckle, Mr. Bush said his son's critics "weren't singled out as much as they should have been."

He said harsh criticism "should not be par for the course. To the degree it turns off one student or one person from serving that's bad."

Mr. Bush said verbal attacks on Mr. Obama "sometimes crosses the lines of civility." He also said it crosses "party lines and ideological lines."

Mr. Bush does not believe most of the attacks on Mr. Obama are racially motivated. He said, "You might find some racists out there but I don't think the attacks per se have to do that he's an African American."

Hours before hosting Mr. Obama at a volunteerism event on the Texas A & M campus, Mr. Bush said, "People ought to be civil. I worry about yelling at people and this yelling mentality that seems to accompany presidents."

Asked about recent verbal attacks on Mr. Obama, Mr. Bush said some of the national tone has worsened but he said he's reluctant to say the "ugliness" is new. Mr. Bush cited tough criticism of presidents throughout history.

He also noted he has differences with the current president but he would not elaborate.

Mr. Bush also said his own life is "very good, very private."
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Reminds me of a story a Korean War veteran once told me. He had gotten his hands on a night vision sniper scope and was having great fun sniping the enemy with it until someone informed him that the Koreans had night vision scopes also.

haha :thumbsup: Are you claiming Papa Bush doesn't like an even playing field ;)
 

waggy

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as a father i understand why he is upset. nobody wants to see people attacking your children. As a US citizen i gotta say Well DUH! what the fuck do you expect after the 8 years he put us through?



edit: i also agree that having negitive TV 24/7 against the President (on both Bush and Obama) is wrong. Sure point out the other side but to nit pick every fucking thing is wrong.

 

Jaskalas

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Good find ProfJohn, for actually reading what Bush said.

The piranhas however, are still frothing over the blood the OP put in the water. Best stay clear of the feeding frenzy altogether.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: loki8481
so, Bush ran a negative campaign ad once that that invalidates anything he ever says?

What about his son?

"Would you vote for McCain if you knew he fathered an illegitimate black baby?"

 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Good find ProfJohn, for actually reading what Bush said.

The piranhas however, are still frothing over the blood the OP put in the water. Best stay clear of the feeding frenzy altogether.

Uhhm it was Bush that drew the blood by volunteering names.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Good find ProfJohn, for actually reading what Bush said.

The piranhas however, are still frothing over the blood the OP put in the water. Best stay clear of the feeding frenzy altogether.

Uhhm it was Bush that drew the blood by volunteering names.

Care to explain yourself?

Former President George H.W. Bush told CBS News that President Obama "is entitled to civil treatment and intellectual honesty when it comes to critics."
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Good find ProfJohn, for actually reading what Bush said.

The piranhas however, are still frothing over the blood the OP put in the water. Best stay clear of the feeding frenzy altogether.

Uhhm it was Bush that drew the blood by volunteering names.
You are clueless dude.

Bush has been one of the classiest ex-Presidents in our history.

Since leaving office he has totally refrained from making any comments about the policies of any president who has followed him and has essentially remained completely free of politics and led a quiet personal life.

In this interview he spoke about the overall negative tenor of the media and then mentioned two people who he thought had gone over the top. But he comments were not even close to what the OP is trying to make them out to be.
 

JKing106

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No, dude, if you had a knowledge of history, or had read the OP, you'd know he grandfathered (pun intended) in the nastiness on cable news. Now he's bitching about it. Tough shit, Poppy. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You are clueless dude.

Bush has been one of the classiest ex-Presidents in our history.

Since leaving office he has totally refrained from making any comments about the policies of any president who has followed him and has essentially remained completely free of politics and led a quiet personal life.

and you're on drugs.

The reason Bush is so quiet is because he is trying to hide because he knows his ass belongs in the Hague.
 

JKing106

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I wonder how many times Shrub has left the country since Spain let it be know they're after his ass?
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You are clueless dude.

Bush has been one of the classiest ex-Presidents in our history.

Since leaving office he has totally refrained from making any comments about the policies of any president who has followed him and has essentially remained completely free of politics and led a quiet personal life.

and you're on drugs.

The reason Bush is so quiet is because he is trying to hide because he knows his ass belongs in the Hague.

We'll probably just wait until 2012 so we can try Clinton, Bush, and Obama all at once.
 

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You are clueless dude.

Bush has been one of the classiest ex-Presidents in our history.

Since leaving office he has totally refrained from making any comments about the policies of any president who has followed him and has essentially remained completely free of politics and led a quiet personal life.

and you're on drugs.

The reason Bush is so quiet is because he is trying to hide because he knows his ass belongs in the Hague.

We'll probably just wait until 2012 so we can try Clinton, Bush, and Obama all at once.

I wonder if Caribou Barbie is going to run in 2012?

I hope so :laugh:
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: JKing106
I wonder how many times Shrub has left the country since Spain let it be know they're after his ass?

Probably the same # of times he left the US before he was president .... zero.
 

JKing106

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Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: JKing106
I wonder how many times Shrub has left the country since Spain let it be know they're after his ass?

Probably the same # of times he left the US before he was president .... zero.

Hahaha! Point taken!