Info Avoid heart failure at older age, just by drinking more water

[igor_kavinski]

Staying hydrated throughout life may reduce the risk of heart failure | NHLBI, NIH

2 to 3 liters for men seems a lot though. I'm drinking maybe 1.5 liters a day. Drinking more would be forced drinking and then I would also have to take more frequent washroom breaks.

 

[Commodus]

I don't know that you need that much, but I find it helpful to hydrate here and there — even if it's just having a glass of water at each meal. Heavy meals won't hit you as hard, and I find that it adds a little clarity to your mind. Obviously, it's also important to hydrate around long or intense workouts... you will sweat a lot, and you need that water to both cool down and fuel muscle development.

 

[mindless1]

Some sources state that other beverages besides water don't count, but that's not really true as long as they don't contain methylxanthines. Then again that's for hydration, even if you get flushed out it will eliminate some toxins.

I already consume 2L winter, 3L summer. Heck my morning coffee is 20oz but as mentioned above, doesn't really qualify since it has the caffeine and theobromine in it, but then I have about 10oz beverage with each meal, and a beverage or two in the evening, and one before dinner in summer if I've been sweating outside.

 

[mike8675309]

For 7 years now I've been drinking prominently water. I stopped drinking anything else regularly back then, and now only drink a cola or sprite maybe when going to the movies, or at a party. That means about 3 liters minimum a day. It dramatically helped my skin. Other than that I'm not sure. I do many other things that help my heart so when I die, there will be too many confounding factors to point to any single thing as being key.

 

[A///]

I drink what my body needs since I don't do much most of the day. If I go a few days without drinking water outside of food I find my head hurts and I feel very ill.

Some sources state that other beverages besides water don't count, but that's not really true as long as they don't contain methylxanthines. Then again that's for hydration, even if you get flushed out it will eliminate some toxins.

I already consume 2L winter, 3L summer. Heck my morning coffee is 20oz but as mentioned above, doesn't really qualify since it has the caffeine and theobromine in it, but then I have about 10oz beverage with each meal, and a beverage or two in the evening, and one before dinner in summer if I've been sweating outside.

Isn't it also you should avoid consuming large amounts of oxylates like in black tea?

 

[mindless1]

^ Is there a link between that and hydration or heart health? Lots of healthy foods are high in oxalates, I wouldn't especially avoid them unless you have a known mineral deficiency or kidney stones.

Why would you go a few days without drinking water outside of food? Seems like you might need to get more exercise, that it is likely a bigger problem, including as it relates to heart health.

 

[Torn Mind]

I don't habitually drink water. I find it an excuse so the food and vitamin industry to sell more product because you're pissing out so much water and the minerals that is in the mixture.

Dehydration is bad but you aren't that dehydrated if you are not thirsty. That last thing I want to be is a pissing machine.

 

[mindless1]

^ How often is too often? I've never tried to keep track but I probably urinate 5X a day, plus some studies indicate the average person sweats out 3L a day even if mostly inactive. Pissing out the minerals decreases the chance of kidney stones, and gets rid of toxins that sweating can't.

Can you really sweat out toxins?

If you’re looking to detox your body, experts say the sauna isn’t really the answer—but there are things you can do.

www.nationalgeographic.com

At the same time, I agree you shouldn't force yourself to drink more water if you find that you're excessively urinating... unless excessive only means frequent (not due to high volume) and it's a sign of a different problem.

 

[Iron Woode]

Staying hydrated throughout life may reduce the risk of heart failure | NHLBI, NIH

2 to 3 liters for men seems a lot though. I'm drinking maybe 1.5 liters a day. Drinking more would be forced drinking and then I would also have to take more frequent washroom breaks.

sounds OK but there are better ways of reducing heart failure:

no illicit drugs
little alcohol
eat healthy
exercise
no smoking

I am sure there are more.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I've heard that walking up stairs is a good way to give the heart a workout. Did that few days ago. I think I climbed too many stairs though. My legs were sore for two days.

 

[Torn Mind]

^ How often is too often? I've never tried to keep track but I probably urinate 5X a day, plus some studies indicate the average person sweats out 3L a day even if mostly inactive. Pissing out the minerals decreases the chance of kidney stones, and gets rid of toxins that sweating can't.

Can you really sweat out toxins?

If you’re looking to detox your body, experts say the sauna isn’t really the answer—but there are things you can do.

www.nationalgeographic.com

At the same time, I agree you shouldn't force yourself to drink more water if you find that you're excessively urinating... unless excessive only means frequent (not due to high volume) and it's a sign of a different problem.

It depends. 2-4 times, I guess. I never kept track. I drink more in the warmer months. I hate the stomach full of water feeling. I don't seem to go through more than 3-4 16.9oz water bottles max a day. So no way in hell would I drink a full 2L bottle.

FWIW, the three times I got my blood tested, my sodium was 140, 139, and 140, under the 142 threshold the researchers found.

 

[mindless1]

^ ?? If you are drinking 3-4 16oz water bottles a day, you ARE getting near 2L+ per day total water once added to other hydration sources, so I don't understand...

It's not just "straight water", there are many means of getting fluid from other beverages or foods. Some (myself included) would argue that you are better off getting that fluid from water content in fruits and vegetables rather than straight water.

Is it a conspiracy to eat food? If so then I'm screwed because I kinda, like, to eat, food.

 

[igor_kavinski]

With protein, you need to drink a bit more, especially if it is animal protein. I usually drink just a glass of water before starting a meal. When I eat a fair amount of meat, I start feeling thirsty after a few hours and have to drink a glass or two to quench my thirst. Don't usually get this thirst with plant based foods.