average overclock I can expect with Winnie 3000/3200+

imported_kouch

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Hi guys,

I know that these new 90nm chips are supposed to run cool and overclock very well etc...but reading forums and stuff, it is hard to get a good handle on the average oc I could expect. I mean the high range is very fantastic (2.7+ etc) but, in the opinion of A64 vets, what is the AVG oc these days?
 

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Lifer
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Got My 3200 winchester just recently. 10x240 with a 5:3 divider. So the ram is running at PC3200 speed as it should and the CPU running at 2.4 GHz. So it's now at 3800 speeds. I could likely push it to 2.5+ if I wanted too.

If I had faster RAM I could likely get it to 2.6-2.7GHz with a few voltage ajustments.
 

nitro28

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Got My 3200 winchester just recently. 10x240 with a 5:3 divider. So the ram is running at PC3200 speed as it should and the CPU running at 2.4 GHz. So it's now at 3800 speeds. I could likely push it to 2.5+ if I wanted too.

Do you mean a 5:6 divider, because if you are set at 5:3 your ram would be at 144MHz, which would be DDR288 approximately or about PC2260 or so. might want to change it if that is the case, if it stays stable.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: nitro28
Got My 3200 winchester just recently. 10x240 with a 5:3 divider. So the ram is running at PC3200 speed as it should and the CPU running at 2.4 GHz. So it's now at 3800 speeds. I could likely push it to 2.5+ if I wanted too.

Do you mean a 5:6 divider, because if you are set at 5:3 your ram would be at 144MHz, which would be DDR288 approximately or about PC2260 or so. might want to change it if that is the case, if it stays stable.

5:6 would make my ram run faster than the CPU clock. If you take 240 (cpu internal clock)and 200(Ram clock) and do the math, you'll will see that's a 5:3 divider. If you were only to overclock to 2.2, you would want a 4:3 divider.
 

nitro28

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oops, sorry 6:5 divider. Correct me if I am wrong but a ratio of 5:3 means that the ram would run at 60% the speed of the processor right if
5=100% then 3=60%. wouldn't that make the ram at 144mhz? Then If 6=100% then 5=83.3333% and 83.33% of 240 is about 200MHz isn't it.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: nitro28
oops, sorry 6:5 divider. Correct me if I am wrong but a ratio of 5:3 means that the ram would run at 60% the speed of the processor right if
5=100% then 3=60%. wouldn't that make the ram at 144mhz? Then If 6=100% then 5=83.3333% and 83.33% of 240 is about 200MHz isn't it.

Im counting the 5 as the CPU and 3 is the RAM which states it in my BIOS. So *shrug*
 

SrGuapo

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5:3 means that for every five cycles the CPU does, he RAM does 3. In your case, the HTT is 240. 3/5 of 240 = 144 Mhz.


I am running my 3200+ at 2.4 GHz with the RAM (cheap mushkin RAM) 1:1 at 2.5-3-3 on my Epox 9NDA3+. I could turn it up more, but I really don't want to start messing with vcore and everything, yet. From what I've seen, the winchesters should all max out asround 2.6-2.7 GHz without some more elaborate cooling.
 

DVad3r

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I have my 3200 @ 2510 with 251x10 and 4 HTT setting. On startup it says DDR 400, but in CPU z it shows that the memory is running at 251 mhz frequency, which should be DDR 502 ? I really don't get it, I'm so noob with this OC but at least everything is stable.
 

nitro28

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I have my 3200 @ 2510 with 251x10 and 4 HTT setting. On startup it says DDR 400, but in CPU z it shows that the memory is running at 251 mhz frequency, which should be DDR 502 ? I really don't get it, I'm so noob with this OC but at least everything is stable.

The DDR400 setting on my board just means that the ram will run 1:1 with the FSB it doesn't mean its keeping the ram at 200MHz. So, if your board is the same (would be nice if you showed it in your sig) it is reading correctly. The DDR333 setting then would actually be a 6:5 divider.
 

imported_kouch

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so if I have a decent water cooling loop, what could I expect with a winnie? Is there significant overclocking differences with 3500+ vs 3200+?

I have my current ram running at 225 fsb 11-2-2-2 on my AXP setup. Is there any disadvantage to this ram no going higher than 230 ish even with crap timings?
 

richardrds

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The best bang for the buck is the 3000+ winnie, most people easily can get it to 2.4-2.6Ghz with stock air cooling. The only negative with the 3000+ might be the 9x multi, vs the 10x and 11x on the 3200/3500 winnie's. Some mobo's like the ABIT AV8 are having problems pushing the HTT to greater then 250 because the AGP lock seems to flake out at higher HTT then that, so the 9x multi might hinder your overclock with an AV8 mobo.