Avalon for Windows Xp

jimmy43

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Hi I read that Avalon will be ported for the Xp OS, which is great news in my opinion. Does anyone know when/how, or with which release it will be released? I was thinking they might add it to XP R2 which is coming out soon... Does anyone know any info?
 

drag

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I doubt it will be out any time soon. It originally was slated to be released with Longhorn OS, however they dropped it along with most of WinFS, in a apparent attempt to get Longhorn out in a reasonable time frame. (longhorn, I guess, was designed to be a intermediate release between WinXP and blackcomb, which is suppose to replace NT alltogether. Or something like that)

So if it was dropped from Longhorn to speed up it's release and longhorn is suppose to be released in 2006. Then I'd bet that Avalon won't get released until 3-4 years from now, which is a long time after WinXP R2.

However going by Microsoft's history, my guess is that Avalon will never get released. Parts of it will probably be added to WinXP R2, and maybe they do something like making features from Avalon be integrated into DirectX 10 or 11 or something like that.

So you may get something like 30% of avalon into WinXP r2, and maybe 50-60% of avalon integrated into Longhorn's GUI. Then MS will start talking about something big that will integrate all of Avalon's ideas + a bunch of new stuff and say that it's going to be part of Blackcomb.

That's my guess, but I figure that I will end up being 60-70% wrong. ;)
 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: drag
I doubt it will be out any time soon. It originally was slated to be released with Longhorn OS, however they dropped it along with most of WinFS, in a apparent attempt to get Longhorn out in a reasonable time frame. (longhorn, I guess, was designed to be a intermediate release between WinXP and blackcomb, which is suppose to replace NT alltogether. Or something like that)

So if it was dropped from Longhorn to speed up it's release and longhorn is suppose to be released in 2006. Then I'd bet that Avalon won't get released until 3-4 years from now, which is a long time after WinXP R2.

However going by Microsoft's history, my guess is that Avalon will never get released. Parts of it will probably be added to WinXP R2, and maybe they do something like making features from Avalon be integrated into DirectX 10 or 11 or something like that.

So you may get something like 30% of avalon into WinXP r2, and maybe 50-60% of avalon integrated into Longhorn's GUI. Then MS will start talking about something big that will integrate all of Avalon's ideas + a bunch of new stuff and say that it's going to be part of Blackcomb.

That's my guess, but I figure that I will end up being 60-70% wrong. ;)

On a sidenote, 97% of all statistics are made up.




Couldn't help myself ;)
 

drag

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Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: drag
I doubt it will be out any time soon. It originally was slated to be released with Longhorn OS, however they dropped it along with most of WinFS, in a apparent attempt to get Longhorn out in a reasonable time frame. (longhorn, I guess, was designed to be a intermediate release between WinXP and blackcomb, which is suppose to replace NT alltogether. Or something like that)

So if it was dropped from Longhorn to speed up it's release and longhorn is suppose to be released in 2006. Then I'd bet that Avalon won't get released until 3-4 years from now, which is a long time after WinXP R2.

However going by Microsoft's history, my guess is that Avalon will never get released. Parts of it will probably be added to WinXP R2, and maybe they do something like making features from Avalon be integrated into DirectX 10 or 11 or something like that.

So you may get something like 30% of avalon into WinXP r2, and maybe 50-60% of avalon integrated into Longhorn's GUI. Then MS will start talking about something big that will integrate all of Avalon's ideas + a bunch of new stuff and say that it's going to be part of Blackcomb.

That's my guess, but I figure that I will end up being 60-70% wrong. ;)

On a sidenote, 97% of all statistics are made up.




Couldn't help myself ;)

:D
 

Netopia

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Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: drag
I doubt it will be out any time soon. It originally was slated to be released with Longhorn OS, however they dropped it along with most of WinFS, in a apparent attempt to get Longhorn out in a reasonable time frame. (longhorn, I guess, was designed to be a intermediate release between WinXP and blackcomb, which is suppose to replace NT alltogether. Or something like that)

So if it was dropped from Longhorn to speed up it's release and longhorn is suppose to be released in 2006. Then I'd bet that Avalon won't get released until 3-4 years from now, which is a long time after WinXP R2.

However going by Microsoft's history, my guess is that Avalon will never get released. Parts of it will probably be added to WinXP R2, and maybe they do something like making features from Avalon be integrated into DirectX 10 or 11 or something like that.

So you may get something like 30% of avalon into WinXP r2, and maybe 50-60% of avalon integrated into Longhorn's GUI. Then MS will start talking about something big that will integrate all of Avalon's ideas + a bunch of new stuff and say that it's going to be part of Blackcomb.

That's my guess, but I figure that I will end up being 60-70% wrong. ;)

On a sidenote, 97% of all statistics are made up.




Couldn't help myself ;)

That made me chuckle!

Joe
 

VirtualLarry

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I had read that Avalon (but not Aero), and WinForms were scheduled to be back-ported to pre-Longhorn OSes due to 3rd-party ISV demands/dependencies, but I haven't heard much about it yet. Perhaps "XP Reloaded" / "XP Release 2" will be XP SP2 + those components, or perhaps they will add them alongside some XP MCE 2005 features and create an XP 2005/2006 release. Who knows.