Automatic and Manual In One Car?

[James3shin]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: geno
probably a paddle shifted-manual mode with an electronically controlled auto mode

BMW uses a shifter-knob instead of the paddles that ferrari uses.

Uhhh.. no. SMG, sequential manual gearbox uses paddles in the M3, if I remember properly.

He is correct...as for SMG. *AHEM* BOOOOOO!!!!

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: Aimster
I thought it was an auto-stick

but she said she used her left foot...

Left foot for braking? 😕

You use your left foot for braking in an automatic?

I use my right for both gas/brake. That is how you are supposed to do it
😛

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: Aimster
I thought it was an auto-stick

but she said she used her left foot...

Left foot for braking? 😕

You use your left foot for braking in an automatic?

I use my right for both gas/brake. That is how you are supposed to do it
😛

yeah but it was a woman drive, who knows, she could have been using her elbow to push the gas thinking it was an arm rest 🙂

 

[vegetation]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: fishface313

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
It was most likely tiptronics. It's not really manual, but semi-automatic. There is a clutchless sequential shifter. It doesn't work well though. I tested it in my bro's 3 series. The shifting is VERY slow.

virtual is right...and its useless and lame, my mom has it in her passat

How is it useless? Being able to select the gear you want can be very useful..when starting in bad weather you may want to start in 2nd or even 3rd gear..or if you're on a freeway and want to downshift before you actually hit the gas it can also be extremely useful.

They are electronic controlled so if you stick it in third from a dead stop you'll just be overrided into 1st/2nd. The shifts are also very slow compared to a manual. Not in any way a substitute.

 

[YoshiSato]

The new VW jettas have a automatic trans feature called Tiptronic that lets your shift in manual mode.

It seems like a interesting feature but I'm not exactly sure why you would want such a thing.

I only drive automatic cars(it's the 21st century, maunal is 19th century tech)

 

[supastar1568]

its automatic.

its kinda like putting a car in drive 1, then putting it in drive 2, then 3 then just regular drive

 

[Pakman]

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
This is a special feature that only high end cars (like the Hyundai Sonata and Z4s have).

They're kind of stupid and only come in handy if you want a little extra power or if you want to pretend to be a race card driver. (but really suck at shifting) I have a feeling these things are going to end up causing some people's transmissions wear that they don't need....

OMG... I hope you're joking... LOL... I can't hold in the laughter...

Anyways, the Z24 does not have a true SMG shifter like for example the BMW M3 does. It was probably one of those retarded auto trannies with a sport shift. And yes, they are slow. My auto TL has the sport shift and I don't use it at all because it's retarded. Only good for going down steep hills and you need to down shift to a lower gear. Other than that, worthless.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
It was most likely tiptronics. It's not really manual, but semi-automatic. There is a clutchless sequential shifter. It doesn't work well though. I tested it in my bro's 3 series. The shifting is VERY slow.

i have a passat tiptronic, and the shifting isn't too bad. sometimes it's slow, but usually pretty good.

 

[natto fire]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Captain Howdy

Originally posted by: spidey07
no clutch = not manual.

True.
Since manufacturers are trying to blur the line between the two, this is the only way to determine anymore. And I know SMGs don't have a clutch pedal but they still have a clutch, it is just not actuated by the driver. So, torque convertor= Automatic, no matter how many "manual" modes it has. Clutch=Manual no matter how many automatic shifting modes it has. It all boils down to how the power gets from the engine(flywheel) to the transmission...

True, but I believe there are real solenoid actuated tranny's out there that really are "clutchless manuals". But I'm pretty sure they are few and far between.

They must have some pretty beefy synchros. Or maybe a fly-by wire throttle that automatically rev matches for the next gear. That would be pretty sweet, but just thinking about the margin for error when all these "gee-wiz" technologies start to age is kind of scary...

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: Pakman

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
This is a special feature that only high end cars (like the Hyundai Sonata and Z4s have).

They're kind of stupid and only come in handy if you want a little extra power or if you want to pretend to be a race card driver. (but really suck at shifting) I have a feeling these things are going to end up causing some people's transmissions wear that they don't need....

OMG... I hope you're joking... LOL... I can't hold in the laughter...

Anyways, the Z24 does not have a true SMG shifter like for example the BMW M3 does. It was probably one of those retarded auto trannies with a sport shift. And yes, they are slow. My auto TL has the sport shift and I don't use it at all because it's retarded. Only good for going down steep hills and you need to down shift to a lower gear. Other than that, worthless.

agreed. I test drove a mazda3 that had it... since I was really weak on my manual skills at the time... I started to shift.. and it would just take way to long to shift... it seemed like i was waiting forever.

however, I'd really like to get a chance to drive the m3's w/ SMG 🙂

 

[Buck Armstrong]

My Dodge Intrepid has Auto-Stick. You just put it in AS and then you can shift "manually". Dash panel displays both automatic and "manual" gears. Its not slow at all as some above said, but I never use it.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

clutch pedal = manual

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

It's an automatic transmission that, in some modes, gives the driver limited control over when to shift.