Autocad 2000....

[Tristicus]

How much is a copy of this worth in full?

 

[Modelworks]

Unfortunately the only legal way to own Autodesk software is to purchase from a licensed reseller. Any copies bought from anyone else, whether new or used are considered illegal. Getting it even licensed after install might be a problem. I would look at something like Autocad LT.

 

[Tristicus]

Really? So the copy I have is practically worthless..?

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Tristicus
Really? So the copy I have is practically worthless..?

Afraid so.
Autodesk does not permit the re-sale of software by owners.
A guy took them to court last year for that , but the court case was passed on for review. He was trying to sell it on ebay and ebay banned him for it.

They are selling a license not the software. Similar to trying to sell a copy of windows to someone else.


This is straight from the license agreements.

SOFTWARE OBTAINED FROM THIRD PARTIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN AUTHORIZED OR ALLOWED BY AUTODESK, DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, TO SUPPLY SOFTWARE IS LIKELY TO HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE IN VIOLATION OF AUTODESK?S RIGHTS. IN SUCH AN EVENT, AUTODESK IS NOT OBLIGATED TO ISSUE AN ACTIVATION CODE OR OTHERWISE PERMIT YOU TO INSTALL OR USE THE SOFTWARE.

If it was never installed you might be able to find a buyer , don't use ebay, but if it was ever installed you can pretty much forget it.

 

[bruceb]

Autocad in my view is way overpriced for what you get. And if you decide to upgrade say from 2009 to 2010 version, the cost is lmost the same as buying it again. There are better, easier to use CAD programs out there that are less expensive.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Tristicus
Really? So the copy I have is practically worthless..?

Afraid so.
Autodesk does not permit the re-sale of software by owners.
A guy took them to court last year for that , but the court case was passed on for review. He was trying to sell it on ebay and ebay banned him for it.

They are selling a license not the software. Similar to trying to sell a copy of windows to someone else.


This is straight from the license agreements.

SOFTWARE OBTAINED FROM THIRD PARTIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN AUTHORIZED OR ALLOWED BY AUTODESK, DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, TO SUPPLY SOFTWARE IS LIKELY TO HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE IN VIOLATION OF AUTODESK?S RIGHTS. IN SUCH AN EVENT, AUTODESK IS NOT OBLIGATED TO ISSUE AN ACTIVATION CODE OR OTHERWISE PERMIT YOU TO INSTALL OR USE THE SOFTWARE.

If it was never installed you might be able to find a buyer , don't use ebay, but if it was ever installed you can pretty much forget it.

Was reading about that case several months ago. I thought the guy won? I haven't kept up with the details, though.

Regardless, Autodesk's restrictions simply illustrate the monopoly that they have. I use AC on a daily basis and my company purchases the year subscription to keep up to date with our copies. Autodesk has no problem raping their customers on both the pricing and licenses.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
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Was reading about that case several months ago. I thought the guy won? I haven't kept up with the details, though.

Regardless, Autodesk's restrictions simply illustrate the monopoly that they have. I use AC on a daily basis and my company purchases the year subscription to keep up to date with our copies. Autodesk has no problem raping their customers on both the pricing and licenses.

Autodesk has it tied up in appeals court. They have also been gaining strength from other companies who also use the license scheme, like adobe and MS.

I agree they should allow the owner to sell his copy. But if they do that then they can't force you to buy the new versions.

Autodesk has become the MS of the graphics world. They bought Alias, then Softimage. They now have the majority control of the major software.

Autocad, Maya, 3DSMAX, XSI.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
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Was reading about that case several months ago. I thought the guy won? I haven't kept up with the details, though.

Regardless, Autodesk's restrictions simply illustrate the monopoly that they have. I use AC on a daily basis and my company purchases the year subscription to keep up to date with our copies. Autodesk has no problem raping their customers on both the pricing and licenses.

Autodesk has it tied up in appeals court. They have also been gaining strength from other companies who also use the license scheme, like adobe and MS.

I agree they should allow the owner to sell his copy. But if they do that then they can't force you to buy the new versions.

Autodesk has become the MS of the graphics world. They bought Alias, then Softimage. They now have the majority control of the major software.

Autocad, Maya, 3DSMAX, XSI.

I'm not sure whose actually worse when comes to buying out good software companies and trashing them. Autodesk or Bentley? We've essentially turned our back on Bentley after they bought and screwed up some of our structural software.