Auto sales on target for best month since 2008

PricklyPete

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Awesome. Not sure if this is a good sign or a bad sign for me selling both of my cars in the next two months...hopefully the used car market is bustling as well.
 

Jaskalas

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This is excellent news for American manufacturing now let's see how the Rightwing will turn good news into a tragedy. I see lots of good material for the DNC. :D

$15 trillion and counting. Stop the spending and see what happens. That's right, you'll agree what happens then. So we won't, because we can't. Ergo this is a government fueled economy.

Now that you've got a bubble being inflated, will you be signing such a pretty tune when it pops?
 

Theb

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$15 trillion and counting. Stop the spending and see what happens. That's right, you'll agree what happens then. So we won't, because we can't. Ergo this is a government fueled economy.

Now that you've got a bubble being inflated, will you be signing such a pretty tune when it pops?

Yes, for the first time in history the government is spending money. We need to get another real Republican back in office, someone like Saint Reagan, to put an end to this insanity.
 

FerrelGeek

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$15 trillion and counting. Stop the spending and see what happens. That's right, you'll agree what happens then. So we won't, because we can't. Ergo this is a government fueled economy.

Now that you've got a bubble being inflated, will you be signing such a pretty tune when it pops?

He'll just blame teh evulz cunserrrvuhtives.
 

FerrelGeek

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There are cycles to business. Eventually cars wear out and people need new ones.
 

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woolfe9999

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There are cycles to business. Eventually cars wear out and people need new ones.

The increase in auto sales corresponds to rising consumer confidence and other improving economic indicators. These sales are not randomly timed.

But hey, when the economic news is bad, it's a systemic problem with the economy and must be blamed on the administration, right?

Why can't you guys just accept that good economic news is good economic news and call it a day?
 

Infohawk

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Why can't you guys just accept that good economic news is good economic news and call it a day?

Because it's probably more complicated than that. You can have long-term trends with short-term oscillations. To focus on an uptick is fairly silly (and dangerous if you're a policymaker) if there really are long-term trends that have to be dealt with. Maybe you're intent is to simply attack people who criticize Obama without merit, but the way you actually state things in a lot of these threads makes it seem like you think the case is closed if we have some good indicators.
 

Moonbeam

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The increase in auto sales corresponds to rising consumer confidence and other improving economic indicators. These sales are not randomly timed.

But hey, when the economic news is bad, it's a systemic problem with the economy and must be blamed on the administration, right?

Why can't you guys just accept that good economic news is good economic news and call it a day?

I wish it were just that simple but the way I see it, the Republican party is out there to keep good news from happening so they can bring down the President. They are essentially filthy traitors.
 

Craig234

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March was the best month yet for the Chevy Volt with over 2,000 sold. Good news.

One of them was bought by George H. W. Bush for his criminal son Neil.
 

Jaskalas

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Yes, for the first time in history the government is spending money. We need to get another real Republican back in office, someone like Saint Reagan, to put an end to this insanity.

Oh, is that all this is, a little temporary deficit spending? Phew, our problems are solved then!
 

BoberFett

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I would have thought bus ridership being up would have been good news. You crazy Democrats can't keep your priorities straight, one minute oil companies are the devil, the next minute you can't be more excited to see cars flying off the lots...
 

Ausm

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Just be happy with the news. You come across as a very miserable person. I mean, you see a news article you like and your first reaction is how politicians will spin the news?

Ok if Boner or that chinless fuck McConnell book time on Faux noise lauding the success of the American auto industry I will stand corrected.
 
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woolfe9999

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Because it's probably more complicated than that. You can have long-term trends with short-term oscillations. To focus on an uptick is fairly silly (and dangerous if you're a policymaker) if there really are long-term trends that have to be dealt with. Maybe you're intent is to simply attack people who criticize Obama without merit, but the way you actually state things in a lot of these threads makes it seem like you think the case is closed if we have some good indicators.

You would do well to notice the content of the post I replied to:

There are cycles to business. Eventually cars wear out and people need new ones.

While "true," that was a meaningless statement because it ignored the wider economic context. People are choosing to replace their cars now because they feel the economy is getting better.

Everything else in your post is a straw man, particularly where you state:

the way you actually state things in a lot of these threads makes it seem like you think the case is closed if we have some good indicators

I made no comment on longer term economic trends and did not insinuate anything other than that we are seeing some good indicators in the near term. I don't think good indicators should be spun to look either bad or irrelevant any more than I think bad ones should.

- wolf
 

dank69

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I would have thought bus ridership being up would have been good news. You crazy Democrats can't keep your priorities straight, one minute oil companies are the devil, the next minute you can't be more excited to see cars flying off the lots...
How does new, more fuel efficient cars being sold conflict with oil companies being the devil?
 

BoberFett

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How does new, more fuel efficient cars being sold conflict with oil companies being the devil?

As is routinely explained, the energy used in building a car is a massive portion of the lifetime energy cost of a vehicle. Keeping an old car longer has less impact on the environment than replacing a vehicle with one that gets a few more MPG.
 

Ausm

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As is routinely explained, the energy used in building a car is a massive portion of the lifetime energy cost of a vehicle. Keeping an old car longer has less impact on the environment than replacing a vehicle with one that gets a few more MPG.

So are you against all industries that have an impact on the environment then?
 

dank69

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As is routinely explained, the energy used in building a car is a massive portion of the lifetime energy cost of a vehicle. Keeping an old car longer has less impact on the environment than replacing a vehicle with one that gets a few more MPG.
You said oil companies. Are cars being built with oil power now? Are there a lot of oil fired power plants in the US? :hmm:
 

Thump553

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It's probably a mixture of both increasing consumer demand and pent up demand. I remember hearng a news item a month or two back that the average age of a US auto had reached a historic high-which I recall as being over ten years.

Pretty amazing the progress we have made with automobiles. Back in the sixties, and even into the seventies it was very rare to have a car last 100,000 miles. Of course they cost $30,000 now versus under $2,000 then (new).
 

Moonbeam

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As is routinely explained, the energy used in building a car is a massive portion of the lifetime energy cost of a vehicle. Keeping an old car longer has less impact on the environment than replacing a vehicle with one that gets a few more MPG.

Work is going on at MIT on tiny self assembling computational units that can duplicate any part. Each part knows if it is touching another computational unit or the part it will replicate thus defining the dimensions of the part that is then replicated. I don't know however how much energy it takes to make the units but one day we may just make one car and duplicate it with dust from the moon.
 

Genx87

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The increase in auto sales corresponds to rising consumer confidence and other improving economic indicators. These sales are not randomly timed.

But hey, when the economic news is bad, it's a systemic problem with the economy and must be blamed on the administration, right?

Why can't you guys just accept that good economic news is good economic news and call it a day?

It also helps rates are at all time lows.
 

werepossum

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Good news, let's hope it stands up. People have been holding used cars longer because of the economic uncertainty. Since most people buying a new car finance it, stands to reason that more people are feeling more confident about the future over the next three to five years.