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Perknose

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Abuse Victim’s 3 Billboards Called for Stronger Laws. Then the State Showed Up.

Because she rented the billboards, Kat Sullivan may face more than $40,000 in fines for not registering as a lobbyist.

From the article, the background:

Ms. Sullivan’s activism stemmed from her experience as a student at the Emma Willard School in Troy, N.Y., where she says she was raped by a teacher in the 1990s, then forced out by administrators.

She did not speak publicly about her story until 2016. In response, the school commissioned a report that found numerous instances of abuse over the decades, including by a teacher, Scott Sargent, who was later fired for sexually abusing a student. That student was Ms. Sullivan.

The school settled with Ms. Sullivan, and Ms. Sullivan said she drew on those funds to pay for the billboards.

She rented them for one month last year to urge passage of the Child Victims Act, a proposal to extend the statute of limitations on child sexual abuse. The billboards — one in New York, near Ms. Sullivan’s former school, and one each in Massachusetts and Connecticut — criticized New York’s years of failure to pass the bill and directed observers to her website.

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New York’s law leaves a loophole for individuals who spend copiously on a campaign without tying it to a specific bill or call to action, Ms. Rotman said. If Ms. Sullivan had not identified the Child Victims Act and only mentioned sexual abuse broadly, she would not have fallen under the state’s definition of lobbying.

New York’s law also does not account for stature. Ms. Sullivan compared her efforts to those by Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the leader of the Archdiocese of New York, which opposed the Child Victims Act for years. Cardinal Dolan is not considered a lobbyist, but Ms. Sullivan said his influence far outweighed hers, even after she rented billboards. (The archdiocese also pays registered lobbyists.)

^^^ Ok, this is one of those "situations," I guess, where rules and regulations meant to ensure a good and fair outcome fall far effing short. :(
 

Greenman

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The problem with the never ending stream of government regulations is the near certainty of running afoul of them.
 

zinfamous

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The problem with the never ending stream of government regulations is the near certainty of running afoul of them.

they aren't really neverending, and say you are dumping 25 gallons of pig fat into your clean-off stream every day...suddenly that is "running afoul" of these regulations?

"Well good sir, my family has been dumping pig fat into this stream for generations! How dare we no longer be allowed to do this! Please think of the poor coal miner's children that depend on our canned pressed pork products to survive!"
"Your pig-fat nitrogen loads have been ruining the waste treatment plant, causing exorbitant costs to the consumer in water bills, and all they want is to drink and bathe in clean water. Your pig fat causes red tides in the sound that poisons the ocean water, and causes grave illness in children that swim in it, kills off fish, poisoning those who eat it and wrecks the fishing industry."
"But sir! This is freedom! How dare you regulate my livelihood to some responsible level where I profit a mere 24% per annum instead of the just 28% per annum by dumping my terror poison into the human water supply! How dare you, sir!"

"Fuck off, fascist."
 

Greenman

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Every now and then I click the "show ignored content" button to reevaluate my original decision, and every time the answer is the same, nothing of value added. I'll check again in a year or so.

Regulation is much like oxygen and water, to little or to much of either will kill you.
 

KMFJD

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they aren't really neverending, and say you are dumping 25 gallons of pig fat into your clean-off stream every day...suddenly that is "running afoul" of these regulations?

"Well good sir, my family has been dumping pig fat into this stream for generations! How dare we no longer be allowed to do this! Please think of the poor coal miner's children that depend on our canned pressed pork products to survive!"
"Your pig-fat nitrogen loads have been ruining the waste treatment plant, causing exorbitant costs to the consumer in water bills, and all they want is to drink and bathe in clean water. Your pig fat causes red tides in the sound that poisons the ocean water, and causes grave illness in children that swim in it, kills off fish, poisoning those who eat it and wrecks the fishing industry."
"But sir! This is freedom! How dare you regulate my livelihood to some responsible level where I profit a mere 24% per annum instead of the just 28% per annum by dumping my terror poison into the human water supply! How dare you, sir!"

"Fuck off, fascist."
Sounds like you know some farmers Zinfamous

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trenchfoot

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Let's hope the judge trying her case utilizes the full extent of his powers of discretion in her favor.
 

zinfamous

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Sounds like you know some farmers Zinfamous

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I'm from NC...long history of dealing with entitled eastern pig farmers, killing our coasts (thanks, Jessie Helms!), and I have a friend that consults for an NGO doing this kind of instructional work for farmers across the south east: "Yes, you need to build fences and repair them across your property because no, your cows can not use the streams that feed into the public water supply as their toilets." "WUUUT???"

Years ago, dad was also working on designing some methane-capture membranes for eastern NC hog lagoons. One of his various "retirement" projects.