Australian student shot dead in U.S. by 3 teenagers who killed him for the fun of it!

[werepossum]

And how else would you put it? One of the thugs clearly had a bunch of racist tweets talking about knocking "woods" out and hating white people. Oh but the thugs said it was random killing so we should just believe them and throw any hate crime allegations out the window.

On the other hand the NAACP Missouri state head thinks the whole rodeo incident should be considered a hate crime.

Had the races of the thugs and Christopher Lane been reversed and the twitter posts from the thug be about hating black people this would have without a doubt been charged as a hate crime.

That was actually a joke, but I'll answer. With the rodeo clown, clearly describing this as a hate crime is an amazing double standard based only on skin color by people who cannot stand any criticism of "their side". With this shooting it's a little different. Shooting an innocent in the back is ALWAYS a hate crime, no matter the motivation. I am against hate crime laws in general - something should be equally illegal or not illegal for EVERYONE - but I would not mind the federal hate crime statute being used in this case as it would guarantee no early release for the evil little animals. Given the SCOTUS decision, that's the best we can hope for. But one has to consider the origin of hate crime laws. Southern states were notorious in discounting or lightly dismissing crimes by whites against blacks, both at a government level and at a jury level. Thus the federal government created hate crime laws to solve this problem, and as inevitably happens these laws were both expanded and emulated. I see no expectation these animals will be given any special preferential treatment or escape justice; therefore I see no real reason for hate crime charges to be brought.

You are certainly correct that were the races reversed, hate crime charges would already have been filed. I don't think though that this means we must have hate crime charges in this case - though as I said, I wouldn't mind seeing that just to be sure they do not get out early. Another part of the justification of hate crime laws is that certain minorities are more vulnerable even with blind justice. I don't think white people, even Australian white people, are near that level.

 

[werepossum]

I was wondering that, too. A pretty evil, heinous and unforgivable crime considering it happened in front of the guys kid and seemed to be completely unexpected.

Don't turn your back on a potential thug who is glaring at you and staring you down would be a good moral here. Too bad Chris Lane had his back turned to the 3 thug cowards who killed him and never saw it coming, too.

I bet the thug in the video was a completely rehabilitated juvenile offender who was just released from juvie for good behavior after turning 18.

He's stabbing people in the ass - doesn't that point to "crazy person" more than "thug"?

 

[MetalMat]

That was actually a joke, but I'll answer. With the rodeo clown, clearly describing this as a hate crime is an amazing double standard based only on skin color by people who cannot stand any criticism of "their side". With this shooting it's a little different. Shooting an innocent in the back is ALWAYS a hate crime, no matter the motivation. I am against hate crime laws in general - something should be equally illegal or not illegal for EVERYONE - but I would not mind the federal hate crime statute being used in this case as it would guarantee no early release for the evil little animals. Given the SCOTUS decision, that's the best we can hope for. But one has to consider the origin of hate crime laws. Southern states were notorious in discounting or lightly dismissing crimes by whites against blacks, both at a government level and at a jury level. Thus the federal government created hate crime laws to solve this problem, and as inevitably happens these laws were both expanded and emulated. I see no expectation these animals will be given any special preferential treatment or escape justice; therefore I see no real reason for hate crime charges to be brought.

You are certainly correct that were the races reversed, hate crime charges would already have been filed. I don't think though that this means we must have hate crime charges in this case - though as I said, I wouldn't mind seeing that just to be sure they do not get out early. Another part of the justification of hate crime laws is that certain minorities are more vulnerable even with blind justice. I don't think white people, even Australian white people, are near that level.

Point taken. I think hate crime laws had good use for the exact reasons you mentioned. Organizations like the NAACP still think this is 1950's America and refuse to grow the fuck up.

 

[Gintaras]

I know your English is putrid, but please, look up the definition of hypocrite. It defines you.

(Hint: It's part of the reason why no one on these boards takes your drivel seriously.)

I don't have that bad opinion about members of AnandTech forum boards like you do...
I don't think, you're a spokesman for all of members...
I don't think, that all members do think like you...or have to...People do have their own minds...

People aren't "a brick in the wall", like you wish...some might take seriously, some might thing like you do....

Forums are:
To say your opinion on this or that...
To help other with some technical question or to get help yourself...

This isn't a board who likes who or who dislikes who...
Don't forget, people do have personal life's, hobbies...etc...

If you and your-minded people don't like me? I don't care...People are all over different and you can NOT make all people like you or dislike you....No "all-In-One".....

 

[Gintaras]

What's up with the account from '2000' with only 1500 posts anyway. You've been really busy lately.

Here's one for you:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35399590&postcount=515

 

[Gintaras]

Availability heuristic.

Most of the US is very safe and violent crime continues to fall. I personally do my damnedest to avoid poor neighborhoods and/or groups of young people. If you stay away from them the chances of ever being a victim of violent crime are pathetically small.

Over 100,000 dead people in Iraq, Afghanistan...other countries of international conflicts...."domestic crime victims?" "non-violent crime?"

Maybe Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Syria are considered poor neighborhoods of US?

US isn't RICH...Average Citizen of US would loose everything if today he has to pay his/her debt:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Doppel,
What kind of underwear will you wear if orders from China will come "PAST DUE"(~17 Trilion $$$$)and no containers coming from there anymore?
Nude Beach?

Or just attack another country tin order to get an underwear for you would be ok?

NON-VIOLENT CRIME...POOR NEIGHBORHOOD....

Federal Reserve and Arrogance/Ignorance will save us and will lead to a Story with Fair Ending.....

 

[Darkman]

Pretzel Race Logic – Joy Reid (MSNBC) on the Chris Lane Shooting, Asks: “Why do they [the right] seem so determined to also make it racial?”

Posted on August 22, 2013 by sundance

Avowed and well known media racist, Joy Ann Reid (The Grio – Editor, Miami Herald – columist, CNN – contributor, and MSNBC – TV Host) displayed another typical batch of her racist and pretzel-logic views yesterday, when she said:



Seeing the right “directly trying to bait the president on race, a situation with the baseball player that’s already so tragic,” Reid asked, “Why do they seem so determined to also make it racial?” (link)

The entire aired segment is quite typical of how the race-baiting media class of Black Grievance Specialists join with Professional Left-Wing White Guilt pontificators and create an alternate reality that only makes sense to them.

The segment below is particularly apropos because they use an analogy of Canadians and Hockey players. The Professional White Guilt performer talks about how he was shot by 3 black youth during his mugging and attack against the backdrop of Canadian hockey players. Continue reading →

Read more: http://theconservativetreehouse.com...ht-seem-so-determined-to-also-make-it-racial/​

 

[Darkman]

Jesse Jackson's Tepid Tweet: Murder of White Australian by Three 'Bored' Teens 'Is Frowned Upon'

By Tom Blumer | August 22, 2013 | 02:09

Corrected from earlier | People who were wondering whether Jesse Jackson would ever respond to the killing of an Australian collegiate baseball player by three "bored" teens in Oklahoma, one of whom allegedly posted racist tweets, got their answer today. Jackson's early Wednesday morning tweet read as follows: "Praying for the family of Chris Lane. This senseless violence is frowned upon and the justice system must prevail."


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-bl...murder-white-australian-three-bored-teens-fro


p.s. ... Someone's response at Jackson's twitter page:

Jim Norton‏@JimNorton21 Aug

. @RevJJackson Thanks for that tepid, milquetoast response. 'Frowned upon'?? Why not be REALLY harsh and call the boys 'naughty' or 'fresh'?

 

[Darkman]

Don’t Ignore Race in Christopher Lane’s Murder

The association of young black men with violence doesn't come out of thin air

By John McWhorter Aug. 22, 2013

The numbers don’t lie: young black men do commit about 50% of the murders in the U.S. We don’t yet know whether the attack on Lane was racially motivated, nor can we know whether the three black boys who attacked a white boy on a Florida school bus recently would not have done the same to a black kid. (Critics took Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to task for not condemning the violence.) But hardly uncommon are cases such as the two black guys who doused a white 13-year-old with gasoline and lit him on fire, saying “You get what you deserve, white boy” (Kansas City, Mo.) or 20 black kids who beat up white Matthew Owens on his porch “for Trayvon” (Mobile, Ala.).

Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder

 

[Darkman]

James Johnson believes his teenage son was the trio’s next target. Picture: Andrew Quilty Source: Supplied​

James Edwards takes a selfie. Source: Supplied​

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Chancey Luna. Source: Supplied​

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James Edwards Sr believes his 15-year-old son is innocent. Source: AP​

Source: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ch...s-lane8217s-life/story-fni0fiyv-1226700172461​

 

[Darkman]

Correction; Sharpton and Obama Silent on Murder of White Baseball Player by "Bored" Teenagers, Two Black, One White


Katie Pavlich | Aug 21, 2013

Not surprisingly, Al Sharpton and Barack Obama, who quickly opined on the George Zimmerman self-defense case against Trayvon Martin, are silent. Not only should they be publicly condemning the alleged killing, which is now an international incident, but they should be asking why the hell these teenagers were "bored" in the middle of the day. Where were their parents? Where is Sharpton when it comes to condemning young black men joining gangs, as these three did? If Obama had a son, would he look like Chris Lane?

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...layer-by-three-bored-black-teenagers-n1669722

 

[Darkman]

Time: “Young Black Men Murder 14 Times More than Young White Men”

August 22, 2013 By Daniel Greenfield

The article is a by an African-American professor and mostly it restates the obvious. It’s just that the obvious isn’t much talked about.

Read more: http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreen...en-murder-14-times-more-than-young-white-men/

 

[ABC10]

I think they are all black.

 

[justoh]

Here's one for you:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35399590&postcount=515

Where are you from, duuude? I can't tell whether you're a non-native speaker or a person with a disability.

 

[Darkman]

James Edwards' sister was on several CNN shows earlier ... and said that as far as she knows he was / is a good boy.

 

[HomerJS]

Pretzel Race Logic – Joy Reid (MSNBC) on the Chris Lane Shooting, Asks: “Why do they [the right] seem so determined to also make it racial?”

Posted on August 22, 2013 by sundance

Avowed and well known media racist, Joy Ann Reid (The Grio – Editor, Miami Herald – columist, CNN – contributor, and MSNBC – TV Host) displayed another typical batch of her racist and pretzel-logic views yesterday, when she said:



Seeing the right “directly trying to bait the president on race, a situation with the baseball player that’s already so tragic,” Reid asked, “Why do they seem so determined to also make it racial?” (link)

The entire aired segment is quite typical of how the race-baiting media class of Black Grievance Specialists join with Professional Left-Wing White Guilt pontificators and create an alternate reality that only makes sense to them.

The segment below is particularly apropos because they use an analogy of Canadians and Hockey players. The Professional White Guilt performer talks about how he was shot by 3 black youth during his mugging and attack against the backdrop of Canadian hockey players. Continue reading →

Read more: http://theconservativetreehouse.com...ht-seem-so-determined-to-also-make-it-racial/​

Because this case is a random shooting. The right is so determined to prove see its us white people who are under seige from those negros.

 

[HomerJS]

Correction; Sharpton and Obama Silent on Murder of White Baseball Player by "Bored" Teenagers, Two Black, One White


Katie Pavlich | Aug 21, 2013


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...layer-by-three-bored-black-teenagers-n1669722

There was an arrest so what is left to protest

 

[werepossum]

Because this case is a random shooting. The right is so determined to prove see its us white people who are under seige from those negros.

Maybe. There are some social media posts which indicate targeting whites specifically. On the other hand, apparently their second intended victim was a black classmate, so we don't really know. Frankly I don't really care. They shot an innocent young man dead for kicks; they need to fry. Given that SCOTUS in its infinite wisdom has prohibited that, they need the next best thing which is life without parole.

 

[HomerJS]

Maybe. There are some social media posts which indicate targeting whites specifically. On the other hand, apparently their second intended victim was a black classmate, so we don't really know. Frankly I don't really care. They shot an innocent young man dead for kicks; they need to fry. Given that SCOTUS in its infinite wisdom has prohibited that, they need the next best thing which is life without parole.

Complete agreement

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Another seemingly targeted vicious unprovoked assault.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/23/us/world-war-vet-beating-death/index.html?hpt=hp_t2



But I'm sure the normal race brigadiers will remain silent. No one cares about an old war vet.

Stay vigilant, people. If you see a thug following or eyeballing you have your hand on your gun ready to draw. I suspect we'll see more of these vicious attacks from thugs upset about the Zimmerman verdict.

 

[bshole]

ROFL. Jesus what a way to live a life. Spending every single waking hour looking for a bad negro, your itchy trigger dangling over your glock. Whatever floats your boat I guess, I think I'll pass on that.

PS. Thanx for Zimmeran reference, we certainly need a thousand of them a day.... it never gets boring for anyboy. Quite interesting for your readers. Could you please please please please please mention him at least in each of your next 1000 posts?

Stay vigilant, people. If you see a thug following or eyeballing you have your hand on your gun ready to draw. I suspect we'll see more of these vicious attacks from thugs upset about the Zimmerman verdict.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I guess we'll have place WWZD in every reply to bshole.

WWZD = What Would Zimmerman Do

 

[bshole]

I guess we'll have place WWZD in every reply to bshole.

WWZD = What Would Zimmerman Do

LOL

 

[PokerGuy]

Because this case is a random shooting.

Interesting. Here we have guys making racist tweets providing ample evidence of racism killing an innocent man, and you say it's just a random shooting. In the Martin case, there was absolutely 0 evidence that race was a factor at all (other than Martin being a racist), yet there the media and president and all the other idiots would have us believe that the case was all about race. Brilliant!

 

[Zstream]

Interesting. Here we have guys making racist tweets providing ample evidence of racism killing an innocent man, and you say it's just a random shooting. In the Martin case, there was absolutely 0 evidence that race was a factor at all (other than Martin being a racist), yet there the media and president and all the other idiots would have us believe that the case was all about race. Brilliant!

Now you be silly :banghead: