Auditory Illusions

paulxcook

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That is awesome. The matchbox was especially surprising, it actually did seem like there was a box of matches being shaken around my head.
 

TuxDave

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God that barber thing freaked me out... I'm like.. GET THE HELL AWAY FROM ME!!!!
 
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I have the T2 Ultimate DVD and noticed recently that there's a Dolby Headphone audio track. I wasn't able to get it to play back on Media Player Classic for some reason though.

I was hoping with the popularity of MP3 players we might see some binaural recordings show up, but sadly we haven't. I'm not too surprised though, but it'd be an excellent way for an artist to standout. Not sure how much good it'd do for a lot of music though. Listening to some older music and you notice that they have a lot of ambient details and things (think Dark Side of the Moon).
 

TheVrolok

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I've heard recordings like this before, I'm surprised there aren't more recordings like this for movies. Though I suppose the extra effort for a small minority of listeners would be rather impractical.
 

yhelothar

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binaural recordings rawk.
i love trying to hear the soundstage with my earphones.
I find that most high quality recordings of live concerts sound very 3d, especially when the audience cheers, you could hear where each clap and holler is coming from.
Psytrance is also amazing with all these crazy sounds and sound effects whizzing all around my head.
 

Raduque

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Didn't do anything for me on my 2-channel music system. I'm far too tired to break out headphones right now, so maybe I'll hear these the way they're supposed to be later.
 
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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I've heard recordings like this before, I'm surprised there aren't more recordings like this for movies. Though I suppose the extra effort for a small minority of listeners would be rather impractical.

Yep. That's why Dolby developed their own headphone technology. It works reasonably well since they rely on it making use of their own surround technology. Like headphones in general, it doesn't necessarily sound better to everyone. It was nice to see Creative finally make good use of some of their patents, particularly the binaural/holophonic effects that Aureal had developed, which showed up as CMSS-3D Headphone on the X-Fi.

At the most recent national Head-Fi meetup, a company showed off a technology that impressed quite a few people. Its supposed to be able to recreate speakers in various environments. While that doesn't sound like anything new, apparently the actual application was surprising. It has not shown up yet, but I believe its supposed to come out this fall. Unfortunately the initial version is being paired with a higher end Stax system (and so the price is 2-3 thousand dollars). They have said they intend to release a standalone one at some point, but they're also trying to woo bigger companies to integrate it into their own products/services, so who knows.

Something else to make note of is that some headphones actually are especially good at spacialization and soundstage that they do this on their own. Two of the four true "wow" audio moments were at least partly because of this. One of the biggest deficiencies of IEMs/earbuds comes from their inability to recreate a sense of depth and soundstage. I'm not saying they're bad because of it, and its difficult to understand until you hear headphones that do it properly that you notice the difference. Some people might even prefer the sound of IEMs, but it is the main reason I can't put up with them.
 

Raduque

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Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Something else to make note of is that some headphones actually are especially good at spacialization and soundstage that they do this on their own. Two of the four true "wow" audio moments were at least partly because of this. One of the biggest deficiencies of IEMs/earbuds comes from their inability to recreate a sense of depth and soundstage. I'm not saying they're bad because of it, and its difficult to understand until you hear headphones that do it properly that you notice the difference. Some people might even prefer the sound of IEMs, but it is the main reason I can't put up with them.

I bought some headphones to replace the cheap "canal" earbuds that came with my bluetooth headset. They're samsung "surround" headphones, they aren't canal phones, but they seem to do a fair job of sealing to the ear and they don't go in deep. However, I noticed something immensely different from other headphones - the sound seems to come from outside your head. I don't know how they manage it, but I love the way it sounds, and I hear things I never really noticed in my songs.
 

uhohs

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Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
At the most recent national Head-Fi meetup, a company showed off a technology that impressed quite a few people. Its supposed to be able to recreate speakers in various environments. While that doesn't sound like anything new, apparently the actual application was surprising. It has not shown up yet, but I believe its supposed to come out this fall. Unfortunately the initial version is being paired with a higher end Stax system (and so the price is 2-3 thousand dollars). They have said they intend to release a standalone one at some point, but they're also trying to woo bigger companies to integrate it into their own products/services, so who knows.

i thought smyth was suppose to release it with a Stax SRS-2050A Basic System, which is only 400-600. :)
 
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Originally posted by: uhohs
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
At the most recent national Head-Fi meetup, a company showed off a technology that impressed quite a few people. Its supposed to be able to recreate speakers in various environments. While that doesn't sound like anything new, apparently the actual application was surprising. It has not shown up yet, but I believe its supposed to come out this fall. Unfortunately the initial version is being paired with a higher end Stax system (and so the price is 2-3 thousand dollars). They have said they intend to release a standalone one at some point, but they're also trying to woo bigger companies to integrate it into their own products/services, so who knows.

i thought smyth was suppose to release it with a Stax SRS-2050A Basic System, which is only 400-600. :)

Hmm, maybe I was wrong (very possible). I just remember seeing that they (Head-Fi as I don't know that any price had been mentioned by the company itself) were saying $2-3K, and I was thinking that $1K of which was just the Stax part (if not higher). I know its no Omega II, but I was thinking it was higher than the lower models. Then again, not sure what the MSRPs are, so maybe it was based on that for the U.S.

Basically, just ignore what I said about their product, since its clear I really don't know anything about it beyond that it was demoed and is supposed to go on sale at some point. :D
 

paulxcook

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Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Something else to make note of is that some headphones actually are especially good at spacialization and soundstage that they do this on their own. Two of the four true "wow" audio moments were at least partly because of this. One of the biggest deficiencies of IEMs/earbuds comes from their inability to recreate a sense of depth and soundstage. I'm not saying they're bad because of it, and its difficult to understand until you hear headphones that do it properly that you notice the difference. Some people might even prefer the sound of IEMs, but it is the main reason I can't put up with them.

I bought some headphones to replace the cheap "canal" earbuds that came with my bluetooth headset. They're samsung "surround" headphones, they aren't canal phones, but they seem to do a fair job of sealing to the ear and they don't go in deep. However, I noticed something immensely different from other headphones - the sound seems to come from outside your head. I don't know how they manage it, but I love the way it sounds, and I hear things I never really noticed in my songs.

What's the model of the Samsung headphones?