Attn New Jersey Nets fans . . .

XMan

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Today you saw why the Suns traded ya Ason Kidd (Ason as in no 'J').

Wait a couple years until he pulls the same crap in the playoffs and breaks your heart with his inability to hit the broad side of a barn at crunch time. :disgust:
 

spanky

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<< look at how horrible the suns are with selfish marbury >>



what he said. u think the suns are better off with marbury than kidd? yeah right.
 

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<< Today you saw why the Suns traded ya Ason Kidd (Ason as in no 'J').

Wait a couple years until he pulls the same crap in the playoffs and breaks your heart with his inability to hit the broad side of a barn at crunch time. :disgust:
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A quote of pure ignorance...more often than not, the nets win because of Kidds' play so I'm sure the fans can suffer through a game where Kidd throws up nothing but bricks.
 

iamme

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Kidd is awesome.

Scorers in the NBA are a dime a dozen. Marbury is nothing special.

No one can match Kidd's ability to run a game without scoring. I respect Kidd's game so much.
 

XMan

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A quote of pure ignorance...more often than not, the nets win because of Kidds' play so I'm sure the fans can suffer through a game where Kidd throws up nothing but bricks.

Yes, and Kenyon Martin's development, and the health of Keith Van Horn and Kerry Kittles, as well as the introduction of Todd MacCullough, has nothing to do with the success of the Nets. It's all on Jason Kidd.

Last year Marbury ran with guys like Aaron Williams, Lucious Harris, Kendall Gill, Johnny Newman, and Soumalia Samake as his starters - the teams entire starting lineup is new, and the former starters are now coming off of the bench. Yeah, Kidd's entirely responsible for the improvement. Keith Van Horn is putting up stats pretty much identical to those he put up last year when he played with Marbury - yeah, Jason makes him such a better player, doesn't he? Kidd is great in the regular season, but in the playoffs, when the game goes to a halfcourt set and his man leaves him to double team the post, his inability to consistently hit the jumpshot hurts his team. The only playoff series the Suns won with Jason Kidd was with him on the bench.

You can say what you want about my team, but Marbury is not the problem. The Suns' problem is the fact that their best center is Jake Voskuhl, and they don't have a decent player taller than 6-7. Most of the time they play a power forward at center, a small forward at the 4, and a shooting guard at the 3 - and they get outrebounded constantly. No wonder they lose. Their record would be about the same with Kidd as without. What really hurt the Suns was the trade of Cliff Robinson to Detroit. A couple of key players who have been depended on to return from injury and contribute (Googs, Penny) have not done so. The Suns are a power forward and a center from being a playoff contender.
 

spanky

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xeroxman...

sounds like ur GM sucks ;)
maybe they should have traded kidd in a package deal for a decent PF or C. u already got a capable PG in tony delk...or if worse comes to worse, frankie johnson can become a player/coach :p
 

trmiv

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<< xeroxman...

sounds like ur GM sucks ;)
maybe they should have traded kidd in a package deal for a decent PF or C. u already got a capable PG in tony delk...or if worse comes to worse, frankie johnson can become a player/coach :p
>>



Tony Delk is really not a point guard. For some odd reason, some sites list him as one, but he sure doesn't play as one. The guy is a scorer, a point a minute type guy. Anyone with a 1.9 assist per game career average is not a point guard.
 

XMan

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u already got a capable PG in tony delk

Well . . . I don't know about that! Tony likes to take 2 shots for every minute he's on the floor. He's not much of a point guard, more of a poor man's Iverson. But Penny could play point on offense if necessary, and they could switch defensively.

The word around Phoenix is that the Bulls offered Elton Brand and Jamal Crawford for Kidd, and the Suns turned them down. I love Marbury, but I would have made that deal in a heartbeat.
 

spanky

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really? i didn't know about delk being so trigger happy. all i know was he dropped 50 on the kings....yeouch!