Attn: For you Halo 2 + modded XBox users

[RagingBITCH]

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=305025

RUMOR
Hundreds of people are saying if they're going on Live with Halo 2 with a modded box, even turned off, they're getting banned. Rumor has it is that MS is scanning the LPC ports.

I have not gone on Live w/ my modded box. Looks like I'll be using XBC for Halo 2 then.

 

[Lyfer]

That sux, how bout soem freaking respect for the enthusiasts who don't like the OEM design of the xobx?

 

[Rogue]

I was reading that thread, but has it been confirmed yet? If so, is it software that Halo2 installs to send the info back to MS?

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: Lyfer
That sux, how bout soem freaking respect for the enthusiasts who don't like the OEM design of the xobx?

Reverse engineering or even haxoring your xbox is specifically forbidden according to the TOS you agreed to when you bought your xbox.

 

[Thraxen]

I have not gone on Live w/ my modded box. Looks like I'll be using XBC for Halo 2 then.

Kind of off the subject, but do you think XBC or Kai is better? I was using Kai last night and it worked great. I like that fact that it is built into XBMC and Avalaunch (currently broken in Ava since last Kai update). Does XBC typically have more users?

 

[RagingBITCH]

I've never used Kai.

In terms of XBC and Halo - XBC only lived because of Halo 1. XBC by far and away is the most popular tunneling program

 

[tigerbait]

I like Kai better. Supposedly, they're gonna release the Linux Kaid package for the Linksys WRT54g router so you don't even need a PC to run Xlink Kai. Kai is so easy to find a game and enter it.

 

[JohnAn2112]

I don't think they're scanning the LPC ports. I have a modded Xbox and I created my XBL account after I got it modded and I haven't gotten banned. At least not yet. People are posting similar results on Xbox-Scene.

 

[Yzzim]

:Q

Was just getting ready to mod my Xbox and just read through some Xbox Live tutorials on Xbox-Scene. Never saw any mention of this. Glad I saw this before I went on Live.

Crap, wonder if there's anyway around this?

 

[Jpark]

halo 2 is the only game that I've heard of that does this. M$ is gonna lose some $$$ by all the halo 2 players with modded xbox's going to XBC.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Got a signature or something on that? The only thing I've ever signed when getting a game console is a credit card reciept.

 

[Maximus96]

pardon my noobness, but what is XBC?

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: jpark932
halo 2 is the only game that I've heard of that does this. M$ is gonna lose some $$$ by all the halo 2 players with modded xbox's going to XBC.

The vast majority of people who mod their Xbox, illegally copy games.

So, you are saying that if MS alienates the theives, they are going to lose money?



Btw, XBC is far inferior to Xbox Live... It's no comparison. If I had a modded Xbox, I'd purchase a second Xbox to run H2 online.

 

[mikelish]

xbox connect

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Got a signature or something on that? The only thing I've ever signed when getting a game console is a credit card reciept.

When you sign up for Xbox Live, you agree to a TOC. I'm certain if you looked around xbox.com, you'd find it.

 

[Qwest]

i rememeber a couple of months ago, m$ was "supposedly" checking the hard drive sizes of people who go on xbox live. people who didnt have the standard 8 gig drive were getting paranoid but nothing ever became of it.

anyway, i dont see why m$ would ban users, if your modchip is off, you have to be using the retail disc of the game...so what's the problem?

 

[Jpark]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: jpark932
halo 2 is the only game that I've heard of that does this. M$ is gonna lose some $$$ by all the halo 2 players with modded xbox's going to XBC.

The vast majority of people who mod their Xbox, illegally copy games.

So, you are saying that if MS alienates the theives, they are going to lose money?



Btw, XBC is far inferior to Xbox Live... It's no comparison. If I had a modded Xbox, I'd purchase a second Xbox to run H2 online.

To be able to play on Xbox Live you must own the original copy of the game or you will be banned instantly. The people who are being banned with halo 2 actually own the game and are being banned because they have their xbox modded.

I agree XBC is horrible compared to Live, but XBC is free.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Got a signature or something on that? The only thing I've ever signed when getting a game console is a credit card reciept.

When you sign up for Xbox Live, you agree to a TOC. I'm certain if you looked around xbox.com, you'd find it.

Ahh, I thought you were talking about an agreement when you get the hardware. Given the complete lack of affordable broadband (no real options below $100/mo, and even those suck) I don't think I'm going to be online any time soon. According to DSL reports I keep getting further away from the CO. It started at 18,000 feet, and is upto about 40,000.

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=305025

Hundreds of people are saying if they're going on Live with Halo 2 with a modded box, even turned off, they're getting banned. Rumor has it is that MS is scanning the LPC ports.

I have not gone on Live w/ my modded box. Looks like I'll be using XBC for Halo 2 then.

who cares, they are $100~ for a refirb...

 

[purbeast0]

dude, nothing has been confirmed at all. and the actual most LEGITIMATE theory is not even the one you posted a link to. the most legitimate one is the "marriage" theory. go on xbox-scene and find it yourself, i'm not posting the explanation myself.

i have been on xbox live fine the past 2 months w/my mod chip turned off. I have been playing Halo 2 the past days nonstop when at home. I am still on xbox live just fine. if they ban me from xbox live, i'm just going to go buy another xbox to use for live solely.

and for the record, this is quoted from the xbox live user agreement:

"Xbox Live may only be accessed with an unmodified, except for Microsoft-authorized repairs and upgrades, Xbox video game console. Any attempt to disassemble, decompile, create derivative works of, reverse engineer, modify, further sublicense, distribute or use for other purposes either the hardware or software of this system, is strictly prohibited and may result in termination of your account and/or your ability to access Xbox Live."

EDIT: and this "banning" stuff has been going on since mid october, well before Halo 2 was released. Go scan the xbox-scene forums and you will see. it has nothing to do with halo 2, but rather with the recent upgrades to the xbox live service. The reason people are thinking it has to do with Halo 2 is because the first time you go on xbox live with halo 2, you MUST download an update for xbox live. Which means people who haven't updated since early october will now have this new upgrade.

okay ill explain the marriage theory because i know people on here are lazy .

The marriage theory basically says when you FIRST sign up with xbox live, the service links your EEPROM (xbox serial #) to the Hard drive serial # (basically "marrying" them). And say you get banned for going online with your modchip turned on. The ONLY way to get back on is to get a new EEPROM (you can get them online for like $5 from people, i'm not going into detail as to how you do the actual replacement of it).

If you read people's posts who have been banned and have been on with a new EEPROM, they usually last for about 10 hours or so, then they are banned again. This is because the "marriage" has been broken (xbox live is seeing your HD serial # with a new EEPROM #).

So that is the most recent, logical, theory that people are talking about being the source of this. So basically if you get banned from xbox live, the only way to get back on is to get a new HD and a new EEPROM. So basically its easier to just get a new xbox solely for xbox live use.

If they were doing LPC scans, this means my xbox would too be banned since I have a modchip on there. However, on a v1.6 xbox, the LPC needs to be rebuilt when installing a chip (connecting other points to the LPC points via soldering wires between them), and an LPC scan on these would definitely pick up something not right since there are closed circuits where there shouldn't be.

 

[tigerbait]

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Crap, wonder if there's anyway around this?

maybe, but there are just too many checks now

just get 2 xboxes.... one for modding, and one for Live.

or join us on XBC or Kai.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: binoculaz
i rememeber a couple of months ago, m$ was "supposedly" checking the hard drive sizes of people who go on xbox live. people who didnt have the standard 8 gig drive were getting paranoid but nothing ever became of it.

anyway, i dont see why m$ would ban users, if your modchip is off, you have to be using the retail disc of the game...so what's the problem?

thats not true, people were getting on xbox live with copied games less than 2 months ago. I know people who did it. Those people are now banned though. They were also using hacks in PGR2 save files to get cars going over 500mph.

 

[RagingBITCH]

There's a reason why it says rumor in the OP. I'll revise it to say rumor in bigger letters since you can't read.

:roll:

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
There's a reason why it says rumor in the OP. I'll revise it to say rumor in bigger letters since you can't read.

:roll:

i am more talking about people who keep bringing this up, sorry if it offended you.

people keep jumping to assumptions and have no clue what they are talking about. even if they scan the LPC ports on my xbox with a chip, what are they going to find? nothing, cause the chip is off

like i said, I am on xbox live with my mod chip disabled and have not had a problem, and im 99.9% sure it will continue to work this way.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
There's a reason why it says rumor in the OP. I'll revise it to say rumor in bigger letters since you can't read.

:roll:

i am more talking about people who keep bringing this up, sorry if it offended you.

people keep jumping to assumptions and have no clue what they are talking about. even if they scan the LPC ports on my xbox with a chip, what are they going to find? nothing, cause the chip is off

like i said, I am on xbox live with my mod chip disabled and have not had a problem, and im 99.9% sure it will continue to work this way.

Ahh ok my bad BTW - I did see that you posted over at XS in the first page of that thread

Weren't they saying though (rumors again) that somehow it detects whether or not there's even something attached to the LPC? Power would still be sent to the chip since it's connected via the LPC, correct? (I'm no EE major)

The only thing that's not making sense is all the conflicting reports. People are saying even w/ the bone stock HD in and the chip off, they're still getting banned 10 hours later. That's why I didn't think the marriage theory was valid, was b/c they're still using their original EEPROM and hd.