Attempts to recreate Titanic failure FAILS.

[Hugo Drax]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/travel/titanic-cruise-diverted/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

Looks like the Attempt to recreate the Titanic trip with the final Iceberg Collision as the climax, fails when the Passengers get "Seasick" :biggrin:

 

[Red Squirrel]

Haha I saw earlier today that they were "delayed at sea". I'm guessing this is why. Not as bad as I thought, at least it's not a mechanical problem. They should just give the person some gravol and move on. Kinda silly to go to that extent.

 

[sportage]

You don't know the half of it...

 

[cave_dweller]

So the Titanic 3D is out...

Maybe they'll see the fucking iceberg this time.

 

[Lemon law]

First of all a huge ship like the Titanic does not pitch and roll in rough seas like a much smaller ship would. So no problems with sea sickness.

Second of all, rough seas were a non factor on the night the Titanic hit the iceberg. Instead the problem was a thick fog and calm seas. And strong winds would have simply blown the fog away greatly increasing visibility.

And I recently read that very strongly lunar tides and greatly increased the calving of icebergs in the Titanic chosen course. That and the fact the rivets in the Titanic hull were made of cold short very high sulfur content steel. That plus the fact existing naval regulations failed to require enough lifeboat space for even 50% of the passengers and crew. As any human immersed in water that cold had a life expectancy of only 90 seconds or so due to hypothermia.

Could a replication of the Titanic happen today? I would like to say no, but when you look at the various recent cruise ships accidents, a combination of Murphy's law and idiot ship Captains, its hard to say never.

 

[cave_dweller]

Just giver it to a Italian. He will sink it

 

[SilthDraeth]

Idiotic headline, followed by Lemon Law posting something completely irrelevant to the article.

Read the article. And OP, your headline makes zero sense. You should edit it.

 

[cave_dweller]

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

[tweaker2]

I have never gotten seasick while out boating, but I've seen seasick passengers on sportfishing trips that I crewed on that really wish they could die of hypothermia instead of living through the interminable bouts of barfing and dry heaves they were experiencing 25-30 miles out at sea.

 

[davmat787]

First of all a huge ship like the Titanic does not pitch and roll in rough seas like a much smaller ship would. So no problems with sea sickness.

Yes, they can. In fact, there is a phenomenon where a large ship starts rolling and pitching to the point where it sinks, or at least capsizes. There is a youtube video of a cruise ship that is experiencing this. Now, these large cruise ships are designed to minimize pitch/roll as they carry passengers. They can deploy underwater devices (forget name of them at the moment) that are like wings that alleviate the effects to a large degree. Also, they will simply use weather radar to avoid rough weather as much as possible.

I have even seen vids of US carriers pitching what looked like 20-30 feet in rough seas. The seas were angry that day my friend.

 

[FaaR]

Just steer the damn ship so the prow faces the incoming waves... Pitching problem solved.

 

[cave_dweller]

Some folks become seasick by suggestion. They simply convince themselves that being on a ship will make them ill. Those who can forget about it, it's often smooth sailing.

Mega-ships of 100,000-tons or more have stabilizers which are used when needed to provide a smooth ride.

Two of these are mounted oth sides. These are B+V Prosp. Fin Stabilizer E.

 

[Lemon law]

Yes, they can. In fact, there is a phenomenon where a large ship starts rolling and pitching to the point where it sinks, or at least capsizes. There is a youtube video of a cruise ship that is experiencing this. Now, these large cruise ships are designed to minimize pitch/roll as they carry passengers. They can deploy underwater devices (forget name of them at the moment) that are like wings that alleviate the effects to a large degree. Also, they will simply use weather radar to avoid rough weather as much as possible.

I have even seen vids of US carriers pitching what looked like 20-30 feet in rough seas. The seas were angry that day my friend.

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I said sea sickness was not an issue on the night the Titanic went down after reading the link. Because the night the Titanic went down, it was calm seas and not high seas on the night the Titanic hit the iceberg.

I did not argue that even large ships like the Titanic can't pitch in really rough seas, so your point, is what Daymat and SilthDraeth? As my reading comprehension was this thread was about replicating the exact conditions on the very night when the Titanic hit a iceberg. And not about a totally different time when rough seas could have been prevalent in the same area.

 

[davmat787]

LL: the phenomenon I was referring to is parametric roll resonance, which can be seen in this unbelievable footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kohr0KfVXZA

 

[davmat787]

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I said sea sickness was not an issue on the night the Titanic went down after reading the link. Because the night the Titanic went down, it was calm seas and not high seas on the night the Titanic hit the iceberg.

I did not argue that even large ships like the Titanic can't pitch in really rough seas, so your point, is what Daymat and SilthDraeth? As my reading comprehension was this thread was about replicating the exact conditions on the very night when the Titanic hit a iceberg. And not about a totally different time when rough seas could have been prevalent in the same area.

Yes, you did.

Your words verbatim, which I understood you to believe that large ships do not pitch and roll like a much smaller ship would. You said it, not me. Also, see the video I posted above.

First of all a huge ship like the Titanic does not pitch and roll in rough seas like a much smaller ship would. So no problems with sea sickness.

 

[Wreckem]

Yes, you did.

Your words verbatim, which I understood you to believe that large ships do not pitch and roll like a much smaller ship would. You said it, not me. Also, see the video I posted above.

If Oasis or Allure ever saw rough seas as in the video you posted the ships would have extreme difficulties. The probably wouldn't make it. This is one reason(there are several) why RCL will never send those behemoths to the med. The med is way to unpredictable. In the US/Carib its easy for the cruise liners to avoid seas like that.

 

[UberNeuman]

Let me know when they attempt to recreate the Hindenburg.

Now that would be a blast!

 

[cave_dweller]

North Atlantic crossings and the Caribbean is rough during hurricane season.

 

[cave_dweller]

If Oasis or Allure ever saw rough seas as in the video you posted the ships would have extreme difficulties. The probably wouldn't make it. This is one reason(there are several) why RCL will never send those behemoths to the med. The med is way to unpredictable. In the US/Carib its easy for the cruise liners to avoid seas like that.

The first are a set of fins that stick out of the side of the hull. They simply change their angle of attack just like a plane's stabilizer to counter the roll. They can reduce the ship's roll to essentially nothing.

The second type is a pair of tanks of water with a high-speed pump that pumps water between them to balance the ship against rolling. I've been on this sort of ship, too, and they roll more, but it still takes the bite out of the roll.