Attack somebody in their car, get shot

[spidey07]

This is why castle doctrine laws are so awesome. Here in KY they extend to your vehicle where you have the expectation of safety and are free to defend, with deadly force, anybody trying to enter the vehicle or attacking you, just as if it were your home. Good ruling here, and good shoot. Castle Doctrine laws make it so you cannot even be prosecuted for the shooting as well as being immune from civil suits/liability.

http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/v...51eaf9493/KY--Louisville-Former-Player-Slain/

A judge has ruled that a former University of Louisville baseball player can't be prosecuted in the shooting death of a former U of L football player.

Jefferson County Circuit Judge Barry Willett ruled Friday that there was no probable cause to conclude that Isaiah Howes' use of self-defense was unlawful.

Daniel Covington was killed last September. Prosecutors concluded Covington illegally entered Howes' vehicle and was punching him and a passenger repeatedly when Howes shot him.

Howes' lawyer, Bart Adams, asked that the case be kept out of the hands of a grand jury, saying Howes was protected from prosecution by a Kentucky law that lets people use deadly force against anyone trying to get into their house or occupied vehicle.

 

[JulesMaximus]

That homeless guy with the newspaper was comin' right at me!!!

 

[nick1985]

:thumbsup:

 

[JulesMaximus]

Once the guy is dead it's just your word against...well, it's pretty much just your word.

License to kill! Yee Haw!!! Ima gonna be Jimmy Bond! All I needs is a tux and a silver Camaro...

 

[nick1985]

Once the guy is dead it's just your word against...well, it's pretty much just your word.

License to kill! Yee Haw!!! Ima gonna be Jimmy Bond! All I needs is a tux and a silver Camaro...

Give it a rest. If you read the article it wasn't just his word against the perps.

 

[highland145]

+1

 

[spidey07]

Once the guy is dead it's just your word against...well, it's pretty much just your word.

License to kill! Yee Haw!!! Ima gonna be Jimmy Bond! All I needs is a tux and a silver Camaro...

Exactly. That's why you always make sure you kill them. Dead men tell no tales.

 

[Azraele]

+1

You couldn't come up with anything constructive to say at all? Really?

As for the ruling, the guy was defending himself. It's one thing if the guy took a shot at him if the robber was just telling him to get out of the vehicle, but he was getting pounded on.

The only argument I can think of against his actions is it was 2 (him and the passenger) against one robber.

 

[highland145]

You couldn't come up with anything constructive to say at all? Really?

 

[thegimp03]

Good.

 

[actuarial]

So you can invite someone over to your house and then shoot them, and they're not allowed to prosecute?

 

[spidey07]

So you can invite someone over to your house and then shoot them, and they're not allowed to prosecute?

They have to be in your house/vehicle unlawfully/uninvited. If you didn't invite or allow them in, fair game.

 

[ussfletcher]

So you can invite someone over to your house and then shoot them, and they're not allowed to prosecute?

They have to be in your home illegally, an invited guest is not.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

:thumbsup:

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

I love threads like these.
It really shows you who the spineless girly-men really are. AKA Jules

 

[shortylickens]

Once the guy is dead it's just your word against...well, it's pretty much just your word.

License to kill! Yee Haw!!! Ima gonna be Jimmy Bond! All I needs is a tux and a silver Camaro...

:awe:

 

[OCGuy]

Excellent.

 

[Tom]

While I agree with the principal behind the ruling, I don't think somebody getting killed is something to celebrate, if we don't know all the facts.

Since this precluded a Grand Jury investigation, how do we have any idea what the circumstances were ?

 

[Joseph F]

I agree with this. You should (under the right circumstances) be able to use lethal force to defend yourself.

 

[Tom]

Somebody steals your wallet. They run down the street and jump in their car, you chase them, go in the car to get your wallet.

At that point they can shoot you ?

 

[alkemyst]

Give it a rest. If you read the article it wasn't just his word against the perps.

Yeah his passenger stuck up for him

 

[spidey07]

Somebody steals your wallet. They run down the street and jump in their car, you chase them, go in the car to get your wallet.

At that point they can shoot you ?

Not likely, the commission of the crime and unlawful altercation beforehand makes it tricky. Could go either way.

 

[Scotteq]

This is why castle doctrine laws are so awesome. Here in KY they extend to your vehicle where you have the expectation of safety and are free to defend, with deadly force, anybody trying to enter the vehicle or attacking you, just as if it were your home. Good ruling here, and good shoot. Castle Doctrine laws make it so you cannot even be prosecuted for the shooting as well as being immune from civil suits/liability.

I do not believe "Immune" is correct.

Certainly around here the Castle Doctrine provides an affirmative defense in the event of a shooting, but you are not immune from prosecution and are still held to other aspects of the law. i.e. you still have to show/prove your action was both defensive and that you were in reasonable fear for life and limb.

It's true the Prosecutor's Office can choose to not send the case to a Grand Jury and Trial. But they very well can do exactly that if they feel the facts of the case would require it.

 

[spidey07]

Prosecutor tried to get it to grand jury, Judge said - "can't do that". Depends on state of course.

 

[Away]

Once the guy is dead it's just your word against...well, it's pretty much just your word.

License to kill! Yee Haw!!! Ima gonna be Jimmy Bond! All I needs is a tux and a silver Camaro...

Any ruling on keeping the trolls locked up in cages?