Attack on Iraq: "We're talking days and weeks, not months and years" -Bush

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It isn't a matter of trying, CPA. It's a matter of inevitabilities as sure as termites in a vacant house, and as unforeseen, I guess, as the fall of Rome.

Since history seems to repeat itself and our form of government has lasted longer than any other in the current world scope, I would agree with you. But that's irregardless of how we handle the Iraq or other foreign issues. It's more a matter of "our" time may be running out. Again, though, let'm try.


*edit: reread both posts. I think we are saying the same thing.

 

[Moonbeam]

The only historical inevitability I believe in is that you sleep in the bed you make.

 

[Rahminator]

Yeah, ya know what.............there are still victims born there, there are still handicaped children born everywhere, everyday! Guess what though, there are also children whom are physically and mentally fine born there and everywhere else right?????? Now, just how would they have been born at all if there were a few million more deaths and casualties incurred from a sustained, multiyear campaign on the Japanese mainland?????? The Japanese government stated not long after the treaty was signed that Japan was prepared to fight til the last man, woman, and child had perished and were arming them for just such an event! Tell me oh enlightened one.............. how are children born in any fashion when the people whom create them are DEAD???????

I would say your stupidity amazes me also, but, in all honesty, you have a right to your opinion........................no matter how flawed...............I simply feel sorry for someone whom is so misinformed such as yourself...........

You herb, there is a difference between natural/unavoidable mutations and post-nuclear ones caused by high radioactivity due to a NUCLEAR DEVICE EXPLOSION. Second point is not everybody was wiped out in the bombing. People who survived and people who later moved to that area were exposed to radioactivity, hence their unborn children had a much higher probability of being born somehow crippled. How the hell did they deserve that?

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Why doesn't Bush quell all the evil oil baron talk by making a simple statement . . .

The government, citizens, and business community of the USA have NO interest in the oil reserves of Iraq. It rightfully belongs to the people of Iraq. Accordingly after regime change, the UN will continue to control Iraqi oil sales in accordance with UN resolutions and consultation with OPEC to which Iraq is a prominent member. Such a policy should be maintained until the people of Iraq select an interim government capable of handling resource management for the greatest benefit to Iraqi society.

Bush wouldn't gain my support for his current plan of action but I would give him a modicum of respect . . . assuming he wasn't lying.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Why doesn't Bush quell all the evil oil baron talk by making a simple statement . . .

The government, citizens, and business community of the USA have NO interest in the oil reserves of Iraq. It rightfully belongs to the people of Iraq. Accordingly after regime change, the UN will continue to control Iraqi oil sales in accordance with UN resolutions and consultation with OPEC to which Iraq is a prominent member. Such a policy should be maintained until the people of Iraq select an interim government capable of handling resource management for the greatest benefit to Iraqi society.

Bush wouldn't gain my support for his current plan of action but I would give him a modicum of respect . . . assuming he wasn't lying.

Tell me exactly when Bush said he was going to invade iraq and turn the the land over to Exxon without stopping?

Will putting a friendly democratic govt in Iraq help the entire world even if they did not have OIL? YES.

Only partison hacks beleive this is only about oil. This is about taking care of the people that fund and gives terrorist a place to live. It really is that simple.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Did I say Bush uttered such words? Nope. My comment was an attempt at refuting the notion that ANYONE associated with the US push for regime change in Iraq has ulterior motives.

Will putting a friendly democratic govt in Iraq help the entire world even if they did not have OIL? YES.

Your command of the obvious defies all known bounds of human discourse . . . let me guess what's next . . . grilled cheese sandwiches require cheese.

Although I'm a member of Gen-X I don't expect everything to happen in the span of 30-minutes. A stable, democratic government in Iraq will occur when the people have the determination to do so and the support of the international community. As for US concerns, only the daft would expect the world to ignore our extensive, colorful history of regime change/support and believe our motivations start anywhere other than concern for #1. When we start supporting native democratic reform such as Iran, I will believe Bush. When we stop supporting abusive oligarchies in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, as well as, dictators such as Musharraf, then the rest of the world MIGHT become somewhat more comfortable with our foreign policy. Until that day comes skepticism will abound.

Only partison hacks beleive this is only about oil. This is about taking care of the people that fund and gives terrorist a place to live. It really is that simple

I would add ignorant partisan hacks believe this is only about oil. Idiots think this has anything to do about taking care of people that fund and give terrorist a place to live b/c . . . you have to go to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to do that . . . oops those are our friends. We leave Pakistan alone b/c they are somewhat cooperative in delivering terrorists we care about . . . guess what; the greatest number of terrorist-linked fatalities occured in India and those terrorists were sponsored by . . . Pakistan our partner in the war against terror. So NO it ain't "that simple". And until a better educated populace demands that our elected officials uphold the values our country stands for we will continue to be justly ridiculed for acts of commission and omission while zealots worldwide (OBL) distort even just US actions as proof of evil intent.

 

[aswedc]

Yay lets kill dozens if not hundreds of American soldiers invading Iraq, a country with a corrupt regime but one that has done nothing to us. And then we'll get attacked by the terrorists again, only this time they'll have a legitimate justification. Plus we get to put in another one of thoe puppet temporary governments! Never mind the one in Afghanistan is about to fall apart. Hell yeah...

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: SetiKing
I looks like we are getting more countries on our side after Bush's speach to the UN, even France. Germany will not sign on because of the up comming elections, it's sad when a so called friend will risk american lives to win a election.

To be fair, France hasn't really been that opposed. They always demanded that anythign the US do go through the security council first.

 

[Balthazar]

Originally posted by: aphexII

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: aphexII
Eeek, i kinda wish i would be back in the states before any war starts...

Nah, stay in Holland. You know the Dutch won't get involved in any of this.

Aint that the truth

But still, id nice to be back in the US in an uneasy time, you never know what kinda idiots are here in holland.

Heh, yeah I heard stories about this real nutjob think he went around calling himself aphex something or other....oh the odd sorts you find abroad ;p

(j/k)

 

[Balthazar]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: aphexII
Eeek, i kinda wish i would be back in the states before any war starts...

Nah, stay in Holland. You know the Dutch won't get involved in any of this.

you're right... they have this thing about actually needing a reason before starting a war... That is... a reason other than "election year" or "they have OIL, we WANT THEIR OIL, it is rightfully ours... so we will make something up, we will go to war, we WANT THEIR OIL"...

And most people will just dismiss my comment, i will be LMAO when the US starts a war against the Saudis... (terrorism, not OIL, that is the reaon, it always is)...

Then what? a powerhungry nation, controlling ALL of the oil in the middle east... then what?

Hahaha, SnapIt, he leaps gigantic logic-gaps in a single bound....

Hey whatever you are smoking that takes your train of thinking and shakes it up like a paint mixer, can I have some, it has got to be one heck of a ride....