++ ATOT official NEF thread part IV ++

[Locut0s]

http://cl.ly/3x3F0q2e0W46051T1K0Z

needs to be cleaned up but getting there. Thoughts?

Oh yeah WAY better. However I think Chrome's internal PDF viewer is not displaying it quite correctly. This isn't quite right is it?

 

[alfa147x]

Oh yeah WAY better. However I think Chrome's internal PDF viewer is not displaying it quite correctly. This isn't quite right is it?

The words are suppose to over lap with the red ribbon thing. But the Project | lead should look clean. Exporting as PDF didnt work as well

 

[MotF Bane]

Nef.

 

[Locut0s]

The words are suppose to over lap with the red ribbon thing. But the Project | lead should look clean. Exporting as PDF didnt work as well

Couple of suggestions I have. Fade out the images on each page. They are taking focus away from the text. The red for that banner is too bright as well. Also align the title text to the the D lines up with the t and the i in the and in below. I also think the "project lead" green bar at the bottom should have a little space on both sides of it as opposed to being attached to the 68 number pic. The biggest thing though is to fade out the pics. They shouldn't quite look like water marks, that's too far, but that gives you some idea. Anyway that's my 2 cents. It's looking WAY better than the original already.

 

[MotF Bane]

All I import is my bookmarks. The rest I don't care about. And as for UI style I just adjust myself to the new program if I can't tweak it.

I want my browser to be seamlessly identical to the previous install. It's a comfortable thing. Yeah, bookmarks is a mess, history is huge, but whatever, I'm happier with those than without.

For Firefox, it's pretty just YouTube filling the history.

 

[alfa147x]

Couple of suggestions I have. Fade out the images on each page. They are taking focus away from the text. The red for that banner is too bright as well. Also align the title text to the the D lines up with the t and the i in the and in below. I also think the "project lead" green bar at the bottom should have a little space on both sides of it as opposed to being attached to the 68 number pic. The biggest thing though is to fade out the pics. They shouldn't quite look like water marks, that's too far, but that gives you some idea. Anyway that's my 2 cents. It's looking WAY better than the original already.

Sweet. Thanks for the input. Most of those are little. I'm trying to just get this done so I can proof it tomorrow

 

[MotF Bane]

Nef.

 

[MotF Bane]

A bit of good academic news - running about a B+ in history. It'd be higher, but on the last quiz, I didn't notice Kipling's White Man's Burden in the text, and that turned out to be the entire quiz. I took a guess, but I was a bit off, so that's not going to be a good quiz result. Whatever.

 

[MotF Bane]

History and English are oh so easy. :awe:

 

[MotF Bane]

Well, as long as english doesn't get into the finer nuances of grammar, direct object versus indirect object, identify this piece and that piece... ew. Don't ask me the details, I know how to use it.

 

[MotF Bane]

Neffing.

 

[Locut0s]

History and English are oh so easy. :awe:

History is easy. English isn't hard but it fucking sucks in high school, can be awesome in University. My experience with HS English is the teachers are the worst teachers anywhere. Seems to be the subject all the failed teachers end up teaching for some reason. Or those who hate their lives and the lives of the kids they teach. Horrible Horrible Horrible Horrible experience with HS English teachers! Even when you get a 1/2 way decent teacher you usually end up being bogged down in small details to the distraction of what's really important. Can't tell you how many times I got poor grades on something that was actually quite good but I didn't "dot my i's and cross my t's" so to speak. And someone else hands in Roses are Red, Violets are Blue with no mistakes and gets a much better grade University English classes can be awesome, though again it varies a lot by teacher.

 

[MotF Bane]

I found my calculator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MotF Bane]

That downplays its importance.

Also, it means I kinda owe some guy money.

 

[alfa147x]

I am becoming tired

 

[MotF Bane]

History is easy. English isn't hard but it fucking sucks in high school, can be awesome in University. My experience with HS English is the teachers are the worst teachers anywhere. Seems to be the subject all the failed teachers end up teaching for some reason. Or those who hate their lives and the lives of the kids they teach. Horrible Horrible Horrible Horrible experience with HS English teachers! Even when you get a 1/2 way decent teacher you usually end up being bogged down in small details to the distraction of what's really important. Can't tell you how many times I got poor grades on something that was actually quite good but I didn't "dot my i's and cross my t's" so to speak. And someone else hands in Roses are Red, Violets are Blue with no mistakes and gets a much better grade University English classes can be awesome, though again it varies a lot by teacher.

Is English your second language? Is it the primary or secondary (or further down) language of Vancouver?

I speak English, only English, as does my area. It means I grew up knowing English. Elementary level English was boring. Middle school English was hilarious, since it was heavily about spelling, and spelling is super easy. High school English was obnoxious, since it was mostly grammar work. College English is about writing papers, and that's super easy too. I'd actually be a more impressive writer before the days of spell check and word processing, when my ability to forgo a dictionary and thesaurus didn't just look like F7 and Google. My last A was a writing class, and the prof knew just how terribly bored I was.

Actually, proof reading other peoples' papers is the most fun one can ever have in an English class.

 

[Locut0s]

I am becoming tired

I'm coming up on being awake 24hrs. Trying to readjust my sleeping pattern.

 

[MotF Bane]

Okay, Bane's tale of calculators.

End of sixth grade, I qualify to jump right to algebra. I convince my parents to buy me a TI-83+ silver edition going into June.

Two weeks later, I get bored, crack open the owner's manual, and discover the outline to create a program, I think it was area of a circle. I'm hooked.

 

[MotF Bane]

By the end of the summer, I've created a pile of similar simple programs, and I've discovered that you can link these things to computers. So I've started downloading games by the dozens.

School starts, and I'm in an eighth grade class, everybody has calculators, this is before cellphones and just after the release of iPods. Games have been normally passed down by higher grade students to the lower grades. I reverse this flow, and start pouring out other games.

It gets better.

 

[Locut0s]

Is English your second language? Is it the primary or secondary (or further down) language of Vancouver?

I speak English, only English, as does my area. It means I grew up knowing English. Elementary level English was boring. Middle school English was hilarious, since it was heavily about spelling, and spelling is super easy. High school English was obnoxious, since it was mostly grammar work. College English is about writing papers, and that's super easy too. I'd actually be a more impressive writer before the days of spell check and word processing, when my ability to forgo a dictionary and thesaurus didn't just look like F7 and Google. My last A was a writing class, and the prof knew just how terribly bored I was.

Actually, proof reading other peoples' papers is the most fun one can ever have in an English class.

First Language.

I know I have a good literary style and have been praised for it by many. But I do commit tons of spelling and punctuation errors.

 

[Locut0s]

The thing that sucks with those is you have to get the proprietary link cable to do that. I did pick one up at some point.

 

[MotF Bane]

Two big things establish my reputation.

One: a game called XSnake4 was an early one, but it runs on the graph panel, and in doing so, screws up all the settings. No problem for a few months, until we start using them in class, and suddenly nobody can get shit done, everything comes up wrong.

For me, it's nothing. I get this shit, it's mad easy. So after the teacher goes a little nuts one day about it, I sit in class, and using a page from my notebook, write out the directions to something called prgmRESET. Simple, a few lines, it reverts all edits, not just those from XSnake4, back to stock. Yeah, it's easy for pretty much anybody on AT, but for most of these people, it was shocking. I had to show the whole class, ew, but that program is my legacy. The day I graduated, that same notebook paper, looking a little the worse for the wear, was hanging in the classroom. As far as I know, it's still there.

 

[MotF Bane]

The thing that sucks with those is you have to get the proprietary link cable to do that. I did pick one up at some point.

It came with the cable for me.

 

[MotF Bane]

Two:

The quadratic formula was introduced. By the time he finished the second worked example on the board, I had finished QUADRATI. I gave out a couple copies, class ended, and ten minutes later, somebody reported a bug to me, I patched it, and then also heard somebody was passing it off as his own work.

I learned two things right there. Make a mark in the program that said it was my work, and mark version numbers inside the program. As it ended up, nobody else ever tried to claim credit for my work again, and my memory for alphanumeric strings let me keep the byte count of the program in my mind, and check versions by that.

 

[MotF Bane]

Then it all came together, in a flash of brilliance.

I had a bunch of programs to do lots of things, and centerpointed around the quadratic formula.

Put it all up on Windows, and merge everything into one giant program.

So began the era of prgmMATH. Its first release included three menu panels, and ended with an About screen, telling the version number, release date, and author's name. Size was just over 8000 bytes.

For those unfamiliar with TI, 24600-ish is the RAM value, so that was a big program.