++ ATOT official NEF thread part IV ++

[IndyColtsFan]

nurf

 

[alfa147x]

Sum([Price]-[Deposit])

 

[Rubycon]

Does that apply to showering?

Depending where you are it sure can! I've bathed in a tropical shower before.

But it does not matter if a car is dirty, they still stink.

A better alternative would be using Ti for the sheetmetal and then you can actually tint the metal so no risk of scratching/peeling etc. If made as the same gauge of steel it would be quite strong too. It would be expensive though.

Also CVT should be required. Computer control modules keep the engine near its peak power band for optimal performance, etc.

As far as getting a head unit to work with removable storage you would have to check to see what kind of firmware it's running along with available interfaces and if the physical parts are there to support them. Otherwise it's definitely not a project for the novice.

 

[MotF Bane]

Depending where you are it sure can! I've bathed in a tropical shower before.

But it does not matter if a car is dirty, they still stink.

A better alternative would be using Ti for the sheetmetal and then you can actually tint the metal so no risk of scratching/peeling etc. If made as the same gauge of steel it would be quite strong too. It would be expensive though.

Also CVT should be required. Computer control modules keep the engine near its peak power band for optimal performance, etc.

As far as getting a head unit to work with removable storage you would have to check to see what kind of firmware it's running along with available interfaces and if the physical parts are there to support them. Otherwise it's definitely not a project for the novice.

Couple of problems with that answer for CVT. For one, most people find them uncomfortable, because we all expect the vehicle to shift. Thus, the companies end up setting up something to fake that, and losing a bit for it. For two, CVT's have a much lower torque limit than more traditional transmission. For three, CVT's are still a bit of a new technology (for usage in cars), so their long term reliability is a little bit unknown, and they also make some odd noises, such like that. For four, the CVT's best advantage is in efficiency, not power, so at the very least, they'll program it to stay lower.

As for the head unit, the firmware is unknown, the interfaces are car wiring. It's a mess.

 

[sdifox]

ni

 

[IndyColtsFan]

So are you playing Isengard fox?

 

[zzuupp]

NeF

 

[Rubycon]

Couple of problems with that answer for CVT. For one, most people find them uncomfortable, because we all expect the vehicle to shift. Thus, the companies end up setting up something to fake that, and losing a bit for it. For two, CVT's have a much lower torque limit than more traditional transmission. For three, CVT's are still a bit of a new technology (for usage in cars), so their long term reliability is a little bit unknown, and they also make some odd noises, such like that. For four, the CVT's best advantage is in efficiency, not power, so at the very least, they'll program it to stay lower.

As for the head unit, the firmware is unknown, the interfaces are car wiring. It's a mess.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If they make a noise for hybrids they can make it simulate a gear shift. :biggrin:

Just wait until cars are obsolete and banned. The day will come where you step up to a pedestal and tell the computer where you want to go and you wind up at the designated landing zone whether it be at a store, library (by this time they will be gone too), etc.

Of course crooks will try to hack the system and create a fake landing zone in a bank vault, beam in and take the loot! Of course the cops could beam in with their stun clubs ready...

Above all there will be no flying cars. Flying things are generally pests both natural and manmade.

On the head unit, I'm talking under the cover. You have to take it apart to examine it and perform some basic reverse engineering.

 

[MotF Bane]

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If they make a noise for hybrids they can make it simulate a gear shift. :biggrin:

Just wait until cars are obsolete and banned. The day will come where you step up to a pedestal and tell the computer where you want to go and you wind up at the designated landing zone whether it be at a store, library (by this time they will be gone too), etc.

Of course crooks will try to hack the system and create a fake landing zone in a bank vault, beam in and take the loot! Of course the cops could beam in with their stun clubs ready...

Above all there will be no flying cars. Flying things are generally pests both natural and manmade.

On the head unit, I'm talking under the cover. You have to take it apart to examine it and perform some basic reverse engineering.

You can't simulate a gear shift. It's not a sound, it's a feel. There's no way to simulate shift shock. The closest approximation would be throttle release and reapplication, but it still won't be right. The answer is that people will need to get used to the CVT providing continual power.

 

[Rubycon]

You can't simulate a gear shift. It's not a sound, it's a feel. There's no way to simulate shift shock. The closest approximation would be throttle release and reapplication, but it still won't be right. The answer is that people will need to get used to the CVT providing continual power.

Oh believe me I can simulate gear shift so hard you will have to clean your eyeballs off the rear deck. But the "solution" is power hungry and complex. Might as well keep the 440 in the 'cuda with the powerglide with 3.83 rear - aka muscle car.

Constant power is good, getting rid of ICE is better.

 

[MotF Bane]

Oh, there's another reason I want the town to pave the intersection - so that all winter long, I can go screaming through there without having to cut my speed in half or less to go over the bump.

See, when this thing got redone a few years ago, they decided to really have fun with all those fancy variable controls. Thus, the lights do different things pretty much every time. So when I'm leaving work near 9 PM, the lights are really screwy, but if the light goes green as I'm approaching the lot exit, I can usually make the light. Happens about once every two, maybe three weeks. It's easier in winter too, no trees to reduce view.

Of course, last winter, the Grand Prix would cross the line at 30-33, and exit the intersection at 35-40. The only time I've gotten to do that this fall, before the water problem screwed up the pavement, I was at 40 crossing the line, and had to left off the throttle because otherwise I'd be closing on 50.

 

[MotF Bane]

Oh believe me I can simulate gear shift so hard you will have to clean your eyeballs off the rear deck. But the "solution" is power hungry and complex. Might as well keep the 440 in the 'cuda with the powerglide with 3.83 rear - aka muscle car.

Constant power is good, getting rid of ICE is better.

I'd like to know your solution, but I'll bet you wouldn't fool me. In a seven speed luxury car, I can count off every single shift.

ICE won't be going anywhere soon. Nobody has come up with a technology that is totally superior to it, and that's a driving force to change technologies.

 

[MotF Bane]

Electric? For starters, not enough range. And if we're talking about environmental concerns, battery production is a terrible thing.

Turbine? Slow response.

Hydrogen? It's a rolling bomb or insufficient range, depending on your compression.

Fuel cell? Pure hydrogen or pure oxygen. Would you like to be incinerated or napalmed?

Diesel? Still ICE.

Hybrid? Still ICE.

Nuclear? Hahaha.

Natural gas? Still ICE.

 

[Rubycon]

Oh, there's another reason I want the town to pave the intersection - so that all winter long, I can go screaming through there without having to cut my speed in half or less to go over the bump.

See, when this thing got redone a few years ago, they decided to really have fun with all those fancy variable controls. Thus, the lights do different things pretty much every time. So when I'm leaving work near 9 PM, the lights are really screwy, but if the light goes green as I'm approaching the lot exit, I can usually make the light. Happens about once every two, maybe three weeks. It's easier in winter too, no trees to reduce view.

Of course, last winter, the Grand Prix would cross the line at 30-33, and exit the intersection at 35-40. The only time I've gotten to do that this fall, before the water problem screwed up the pavement, I was at 40 crossing the line, and had to left off the throttle because otherwise I'd be closing on 50.

What if they pave the roads with a contour that works in conjunction with your tires to produce a sound whose tone is proportionate to your speed over ground? This along with sensor outputs used in stability control (ESP) calculates hot dog risk, inexperienced driver factor. A chip keeps record of this periodically sending files to the enforcement authority and when it's time to renew your tags your fee is representative directly to your speeding/driving habits.

They would effectively abolish speed limits altogether and the money saved by having enforcement officers fight real crime instead could be used for other things. How would the speeders be punished? They pay a tax based on data supplied mentioned above. :biggrin:

Electric? For starters, not enough range. And if we're talking about environmental concerns, battery production is a terrible thing.

Turbine? Slow response.

Hydrogen? It's a rolling bomb or insufficient range, depending on your compression.

Fuel cell? Pure hydrogen or pure oxygen. Would you like to be incinerated or napalmed?

Diesel? Still ICE.

Hybrid? Still ICE.

Nuclear? Hahaha.

Natural gas? Still ICE.

Problem is a political problem not a technological problem. In which several via solutions exist but will not be deployed.

 

[MotF Bane]

Ethanol? ICE!

We're not getting anywhere here.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

So it looks like the Olmecs were Egyptian. At least that's one theory with some tantalizing evidence.

NEF!

 

[Rubycon]

Ethanol fuel is the dumbest idea ever. With seven billion mouths to feed taking so much arable land to make gasahol is pretty ignorant.

 

[MotF Bane]

What if they pave the roads with a contour that works in conjunction with your tires to produce a sound whose tone is proportionate to your speed over ground? This along with sensor outputs used in stability control (ESP) calculates hot dog risk, inexperienced driver factor. A chip keeps record of this periodically sending files to the enforcement authority and when it's time to renew your tags your fee is representative directly to your speeding/driving habits.

They would effectively abolish speed limits altogether and the money saved by having enforcement officers fight real crime instead could be used for other things. How would the speeders be punished? They pay a tax based on data supplied mentioned above. :biggrin:

Tire tread patterns, width, depth, and load are totally variable, that's a non-starter right there. Then figure the "contour" means additional cost to produce, more maintenance hassle, maybe higher wear rate, and likely reduced traction.

Speed limits are too low. Speed limit enforcement is for revenue generation first, and safety is a distant second or purely forgotten. The only reason I'll even give it a second is because some people do take it too far. +10, +15, +20 is quite reasonable on most roads (view it as a percentage of the set limit). +40 is not.

A driver on a cellphone, drinking a coffee, texting, doing makeup, doing hair, or eating is far more dangerous than most speeders - and again, the speeders who are more dangerous are the ones doing 100 in a 40.

 

[MotF Bane]

Ethanol fuel is the dumbest idea ever. With seven billion mouths to feed taking so much arable land to make gasahol is pretty ignorant.

Well obviously.

Of course, 7b is too damn many people.

 

[alfa147x]

Picked up the noctua case and fans and SATA cables

Tomorrow
iPod Shuffle x2
GTX 460

 

[Rubycon]

Tire tread patterns, width, depth, and load are totally variable, that's a non-starter right there. Then figure the "contour" means additional cost to produce, more maintenance hassle, maybe higher wear rate, and likely reduced traction.

Speed limits are too low. Speed limit enforcement is for revenue generation first, and safety is a distant second or purely forgotten. The only reason I'll even give it a second is because some people do take it too far. +10, +15, +20 is quite reasonable on most roads (view it as a percentage of the set limit). +40 is not.

A driver on a cellphone, drinking a coffee, texting, doing makeup, doing hair, or eating is far more dangerous than most speeders - and again, the speeders who are more dangerous are the ones doing 100 in a 40.

It's easy to derive speed from tire noise. Watched a fascinating demonstration of this involving harmonics and interference. I was very interested since I'm a singer and can relate to harmonizing.

I threw that in there for pure enjoyment. Of course speeding can be derived directly from the sensors in the car itself. Heck all cars have a black box and soon 3G internet. So you know what's next...

Like I said if they want to speed or drive recklessly, let them pay for it. :biggrin:

Cell phones with gps = when phone is moving no texting. Easy as pie.

 

[alfa147x]

lol the noctua hasn't even been opened

 

[Rubycon]

Gasahol is a funny word. When pronounced it sounds like a drunk trying to say asshole. :biggrin:

 

[alfa147x]

Gasahol is a funny word. When pronounced it sounds like a drunk trying to say asshole. :biggrin:

Hey Ruby ever come to Savannah, GA?

 

[Rubycon]

Closest I've been is offshore, land wise probably Pigeon Forge TN.