++ ATOT official NEF thread part IV ++

[alfa147x]

damn 4300k is kinda high

 

[MotF Bane]

Actually...
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=141
Set bulbs to 85122+, add glue, confirm 9006 wiring harness, pick shrouds, total is $370. Less 25% is $277.50, plus shipping, figure about $290 final.

 

[alfa147x]

Tofu is the worst food invented by man.

You cooked it wrong

 

[MotF Bane]

Bulb. I want the most yellow / white. No blue at all.

4300K is the lowest they sell, it's pretty similar to what normal halogen bulbs put out. 5000K is a very pure white.

 

[alfa147x]

Actually...
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=141
Set bulbs to 85122+, add glue, confirm 9006 wiring harness, pick shrouds, total is $370. Less 25% is $277.50, plus shipping, figure about $290 final.

I'm not going with that. I would prefer the mini as I don't need to trim much:
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=227

 

[MotF Bane]

4300K is a slightly off white, trending towards yellow. It's not a high value.
3000K would be a bright yellow, commonly used in fog lights.

 

[alfa147x]

Weird the kit doesn't have 3000K

 

[alfa147x]

4300K is a slightly off white, trending towards yellow. It's not a high value.
3000K would be a bright yellow, commonly used in fog lights.

Yeah. I guess 4300k would be fine

 

[MotF Bane]

bixenon? Would that mean both my dedicated high beam and my projector would kick on/ high beam from projector?

Bixenon means that your projector has a solenoid driving a small metal plate inside it. At normal operation, the solenoid is not active, the plate is deployed, only low beam light gets through. Trigger high beams, solenoid activates, plate moves away, low and high light goes through. The power and light of the bulb never change.

If you wire this as I would suggest you do, triggering your high beams would put on the projector's upper beam, and your halogen high beam bulb. Extra light!

 

[MotF Bane]

Weird the kit doesn't have 3000K

Then it'd be a fog light kit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=300...HpOqHe0QG3n9AN&ved=0CDMQsAQ&biw=1228&bih=1024

 

[MotF Bane]

Your relay is 9006. Use Mori 3Five ballasts. Your bulbs are defined by choosing the Mini projectors.

Check HIDP for more worklogs, and some output shots.

 

[MotF Bane]

The FX-R kit would provide better lighting, I want to make sure you know that.

 

[busydude]

You cooked it wrong

I never cook tofu. My roommate cooked today.. and how many times I try.. I always end up being disappointed.

Also.. paneer>> tofu.

 

[alfa147x]

Your relay is 9006. Use Mori 3Five ballasts. Your bulbs are defined by choosing the Mini projectors.

Check HIDP for more worklogs, and some output shots.

will do

Bixenon means that your projector has a solenoid driving a small metal plate inside it. At normal operation, the solenoid is not active, the plate is deployed, only low beam light gets through. Trigger high beams, solenoid activates, plate moves away, low and high light goes through. The power and light of the bulb never change.

If you wire this as I would suggest you do, triggering your high beams would put on the projector's upper beam, and your halogen high beam bulb. Extra light!

Fantastic! Fuck yeah! More light!

The FX-R kit would provide better lighting, I want to make sure you know that.

I understand. I just don't have much experience with a dremel. Plus it's about $50 out of budget

 

[alfa147x]

I never cook tofu. My roommate cooked today.. and how many times I try.. I always end up being disappointed.

Your roommate sucks at cooking

 

[Rubycon]

4300K is a slightly off white, trending towards yellow. It's not a high value.
3000K would be a bright yellow, commonly used in fog lights.

4300K is very common in OEM. It's fairly neutral, slightly cool white.

3000K is close to quartz-halogen. Dazzling white.

Fog lamps use colored lenses to produce their yellow color so color temperatures are not valid for a filtered source. To get into yellow-ish light you're dipping into the mid 2000s.

HPS lamps are in the lower 2000 range. LPS 1900K. Starting to look orange.

Remember mercury discharge based lighting which MH HID is based on is going to have spikes all over the place. Salts added to the capsule determine the average overall color temperature. It can be as low as 3700K or as high as 35000K. Over 7K the light is very cold and red objects quickly lose their "flash". Highway lighting to be practical should have an upper limit of 5500K. Of course a lot of the kiddies think otherwise and want high K lighting often over 7K which is just awful for visibility.

 

[MotF Bane]

http://www.f150online.com/forums/illumination-lighting/453269-mini-h1-vs-fx-r-pictures.html

There, FX-R is a tiny bit wider, and has a little less foreground density.

You should be okay with the Mini H1, they'll still beat the factory halogen stuff.

 

[zzuupp]

ned

 

[busydude]

Your roommate sucks at cooking

LOL no. He is good.

Not just at home.. at every restaurant I go to. Tofu sucks. I'd rather eat a plate full of celery.

 

[MotF Bane]

4300K is very common in OEM. It's fairly neutral, slightly cool white.

3000K is close to quartz-halogen. Dazzling white.

Fog lamps use colored lenses to produce their yellow color so color temperatures are not valid for a filtered source. To get into yellow-ish light you're dipping into the mid 2000s.

HPS lamps are in the lower 2000 range. LPS 1900K. Starting to look orange.

Remember mercury discharge based lighting which MH HID is based on is going to have spikes all over the place. Salts added to the capsule determine the average overall color temperature. It can be as low as 3700K or as high as 35000K. Over 7K the light is very cold and red objects quickly lose their "flash". Highway lighting to be practical should have an upper limit of 5500K. Of course a lot of the kiddies think otherwise and want high K lighting often over 7K which is just awful for visibility.

Yeah, 4300K is the standard. My incoming 85122+ will be those.

Good point on the 3kK/fogs.

I fucking hate those people with 7K+ lights, and once I get my retrofit done, I will punish them mercilessly. If I see them coming at me, I will light my high beams and hold them.

 

[Rubycon]

Food is so subjective. Don't like it, don't eat it and move on.

 

[MotF Bane]

Seriously, the cops need to enforce the laws on those high K lights, they're awful for everyone else on the roads.

 

[Locut0s]

Food is so subjective. Don't like it, don't eat it and move on.

Depends on the food.

 

[Rubycon]

Seriously, the cops need to enforce the laws on those high K lights, they're awful for everyone else on the roads.

Current laws only limit wattage IIRC.

 

[alfa147x]

Food is so subjective. Don't like it, don't eat it and move on.

Everyone should like what I like