++ ATOT official NEF thread part IV ++

[MotF Bane]

Below 25 -> Study, study, study.
After 25 -> Stop with your studies, go get your self a job and marry this girl that we have selected for you.

Not just no, but fuck no!

 

[MotF Bane]

While I disagree with many of his specifics, I do agree with the thought that abortion is used for convenience more than need in most cases and I believe that's wrong.

So would I be correct in concluding you are morally against abortion at a personal level, but support abortion at a national legal level?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

So would I be correct in concluding you are morally against abortion at a personal level, but support abortion at a national legal level?

I'm against it except for cases of rape and incest.

 

[alfa147x]

I choose: Let the woman decide.

 

[MotF Bane]

Nefresh.

 

[MotF Bane]

I'm against it except for cases of rape and incest.

Do you support it being banned federally, state by state, or not banned at all?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I choose: Let the woman decide.

Then the woman can support it by herself if she decides to keep it.

 

[Locut0s]

I choose: Let the woman decide.

This

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Too much hypocrisy and double standards in the law and it bothers me.

 

[alfa147x]

Then the woman can support it by herself if she decides to keep it.

Very much agree

 

[MotF Bane]

Then the woman can support it by herself if she decides to keep it.

Now that I do like. :awe:

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Do you support it being banned federally, state by state, or not banned at all?

I support it being banned and honestly, it would probably have to be at the federal level.

And remember, I'm agnostic so this isn't a religious viewpoint on my part.

 

[alfa147x]

That's why you don't have sex with random women.

 

[alfa147x]

Ex-Apple, ex-Palm exec Jon Rubinstein now leaving HP

 

[MotF Bane]

See, I have no objection with abortion. I see the conundrum of the male being without any say in the matter, and the woman having the sole choice, yet it being her choice is the only rational result - her body, it must be her choice. Yet, to restore some level of equity, I fully agree with ICF's statement (as do many men) - if she wants it, and the man does not, then she has to take full support of it.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Now that I do like. :awe:

That's one of the double standards I despise:

"It's the woman's choice to keep it, but if she keeps it, you're stuck paying for it!"

Also, I don't like how a fetus is not considered human, but if a woman is murdered and was carrying a fetus, it often results in 2 murder charges. The law needs to make up its mind.

 

[Locut0s]

<--- P&N. Let's not ruin the nef thread with Politics.



NEFFFFFFF

 

[alfa147x]

That's one of the double standards I despise:

"It's the woman's choice to keep it, but if she keeps it, you're stuck paying for it!"

Also, I don't like how a fetus is not considered human, but if a woman is murdered and was carrying a fetus, it often results in 2 murder charges. The law needs to make up its mind.

That's fucked up

 

[alfa147x]

<--- P&N. Let's not ruin the nef thread with Politics.



NEFFFFFFF

fuck
p&n
people there don't know how to have a civilized conversation without making every issue personal.


YOU DON'T AGREE THAT OBAMA'S BALCK?!?!?! THEN YOU'RE PROBABLY A SHORT BUS KID.

wtf.

 

[MotF Bane]

I support it being banned and honestly, it would probably have to be at the federal level.

And remember, I'm agnostic so this isn't a religious viewpoint on my part.

So we do disagree on a political issue!

 

[IndyColtsFan]

That's why you don't have sex with random women.

My opinion is that sex has a known function in nature and when you engage in it, you know the possible outcome regardless of what kind of protection you did or didn't use. Pregnancy is a risk and people need to take responsibility for their actions. Giving a child up for adoption is a very valid option and in many (most?) cases, all expenses are paid by the adopting parents.

I just don't have respect for people who can't take responsibility for their actions. I have an incredible reverence for life and think it is the most valuable thing in the entire universe. I hate even killing bugs.

 

[MotF Bane]

That's why you don't have sex with random women.

One of the reasons I do support abortion - so that sex with random women is easier!

 

[alfa147x]

My opinion is that sex has a known function in nature and when you engage in it, you know the possible outcome regardless of what kind of protection you did or didn't use. Pregnancy is a risk and people need to take responsibility for their actions. Giving a child up for adoption is a very valid option and in many (most?) cases, all expenses are paid by the adopting parents.

I just don't have respect for people who can't take responsibility for their actions. I have an incredible reverence for life and think it is the most valuable thing in the entire universe. I hate even killing bugs.

Good point. But still believe that it should be up to the girl.

I hate that if she decides to keep it the guy is screwed. The law acts as though the girl had no choice but to have sex.

 

[MotF Bane]

Registrar answered. Her English is a little choppy, and notably, she used "could not" where she should have rephrased for "should", which creates a significant gap. Her implication is that it is somehow my fault that I was not able to get into the course, when in actuality, it is the school's fault in their scheduling designs. She should have used "should" to imply a positive connotation, as in a why should you get into this course.

 

[alfa147x]

wtf:

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