ATOT motorcycle riders: Thoughs on the Ducati Monster 620

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Mellman
Good deal then 🙂 Hate to see squids riding around...

anyways, checkout the yzf600r. The monster was my buddy's first bike, then a jeep pulled out in front of him and totaled it, and his leg. but also make sure you get the MSF course out of the way, it is really worth the $120.

i would love the ysf600r, but it is an R, and that kills insurance.

the naked 650, without fairings should be cheaper, and that is always nice.

also, i need to learn more about the different types of gear, mesh, leather, pants, boots, etc.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

pics of YZF600R (it's my dreambike - sporty, but practical 🙂🙂)

This was when it was newer. Not many changes except for some new grips, mirrors from 02 gsxr 600's and some frame sliders.

yzf1
yzf2

You should come over to www.yzf600r.com and hang around the forums. Its honestly one of the friendliest communities I've ever seen. There is an annual meet of forum members. Heres a pic of the most recent

EDIT: Yamaha is still making them for 2007. Sad to say when I upgrade, it won't be to a new one. I just can't resist all the nifty doodads of the other bikes like fuel-injection, trip meters, gear indicators and such.

 

[MikeMike]

what are all the differences really in jackets/pants...

i honestly would love to get a padded mesh jacket instead of a full leather, especially if i commute with it to work but i want to know how much they protect compared to leathers...

what jacket/pants would you reccomend?

the helmet is all up to me basically, whichever fits me.

have you ever heard of Scorpion helmets? they just started carrying them where i went, looked nice, not as expensive as arai's though. supposedly better than HJC;s.

loved the Arais

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
what are all the differences really in jackets/pants...

i honestly would love to get a padded mesh jacket instead of a full leather, especially if i commute with it to work but i want to know how much they protect compared to leathers...

what jacket/pants would you reccomend?

the helmet is all up to me basically, whichever fits me.

have you ever heard of Scorpion helmets? they just started carrying them where i went, looked nice, not as expensive as arai's though. supposedly better than HJC;s.

loved the Arais

I've heard about the Scorpion thing - its about the same class as HJC. I would stay away from either. Check newenough.com, they had good deals (~$50) on icon helmets.

I've got a Joe Rocket mesh jacket that has worked great so far. Can't say that I've gone down with it, though. The thing to keep in mind is that mesh will rip and more importantly melt under friction...leather won't.

If you have a real commute, I'd get full leathers. That being said, I would never consider commuting on a bike. Life expectancy--;

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Mellman
Good deal then 🙂 Hate to see squids riding around...

anyways, checkout the yzf600r. The monster was my buddy's first bike, then a jeep pulled out in front of him and totaled it, and his leg. but also make sure you get the MSF course out of the way, it is really worth the $120.

i would love the ysf600r, but it is an R, and that kills insurance.

the naked 650, without fairings should be cheaper, and that is always nice.

also, i need to learn more about the different types of gear, mesh, leather, pants, boots, etc.

that's weird.. i checked with my insurance carrier (statefarm) and what mattered for me most @ 18 years old was engine size. the yzf600R is 599cc. for statefarm (for me), my insurance was 362/year (give or take based on bike) for anything less than 600cc's. the 362 was for a brand new ninja250

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

pics of YZF600R (it's my dreambike - sporty, but practical 🙂🙂)

This was when it was newer. Not many changes except for some new grips, mirrors from 02 gsxr 600's and some frame sliders.

yzf1
yzf2

You should come over to www.yzf600r.com and hang around the forums. Its honestly one of the friendliest communities I've ever seen. There is an annual meet of forum members. Heres a pic of the most recent

EDIT: Yamaha is still making them for 2007. Sad to say when I upgrade, it won't be to a new one. I just can't resist all the nifty doodads of the other bikes like fuel-injection, trip meters, gear indicators and such.

gorgeous bike!!!😀😀

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: zixxer

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
actually as an experienced rider i will disagree.. teh SV650 IS NOT a beginner bike. I will not recommend it.

Here is why:

* it wheelies too easily
* the Vtwin engine while buttery smooth has a kick that can get a new rider into trouble really fast.
* its riding position isnt exactly fun for a new rider.

Stick with teh Suzuki GS500, Ninja 250 and 500 models.... trust me on this. Ppl who claim that can ride on a 600cc+ bikes (this includes teh SV650) have no idea that what tehy call riding is piss when tehy get their ass handed to tehm by a guy on a GS500.

LOL stock SVs are as tame as they come.. we have put 4 girls now onto them as first bikes..
they do not wheelie easy at all.. you can dump the clutch on a 650 and it wont be able to lift up..
it does not power wheelie...

its riding position is the exact same as the GS standard and straight up...

I enduranced raced a 2002 SV650 for 2 seasons... and this is one of the tamest good riding bikes in thw world..
it is far superior to a inline 4 as a beginner bike as the curve is much more nuetral.
you post makes me feel that you have never ridden a SV at all or maybe only the 1000 version..
which I have not ridden so I cannot comment on.

You are ridiculously wrong.

I had the 'most aggressive' gs500, one with clip-ons, and it was far more comfortable than my 03 sv650.

I can also power wheelie in first, and can clutch it up without any problems in 2nd.




One of the worst 'newbie' accidents I've seen was a guy on one of the older sv's, he accidentally dumped the clutch when he grabbed a handful of throttle while stopping.. he ended up hurt pretty bad..


An SV can throw you. It is mosy definetely NOT a first time bike unless you are >200lbs

Dude.. what are you smoking ... to get a stock SV650 NOT S to power wheelie in first we had to replace the exhuast replace the carburator and put a harder shock on the rear as well as doing a 520 conversion with 1 down on the front...(Ohlins) as well as rip all the other crap off the bike to lighten it up and put sharkskins and clipons on it for racing.. THEN would it power in first.. and clutch in second.

I dunno what this SV you had had done to it but off the showroom floor these bikes just arnt that balsey.. they are low on HP and high on weight... and are a perfect beginner bike.

I guess these 98lb 5 foot 3 female riders are just better than you casue NONE had an issue with this as thier first bike..
sportbikes.net also stands by me on this and is one of thier top recommended beginner bikes..
so better do some reading and riding and learn a bit more about the bike before you run your mouth.. as said before over the last 4 years ive held a race license with CCS/CMRA and rode a very tricked out SV as an Endurance bike...
as well as working in a motorcycle race/repair shop from 2000-2003 (Underground Cycles in Houston Texas)

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: zixxer

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
actually as an experienced rider i will disagree.. teh SV650 IS NOT a beginner bike. I will not recommend it.

Here is why:

* it wheelies too easily
* the Vtwin engine while buttery smooth has a kick that can get a new rider into trouble really fast.
* its riding position isnt exactly fun for a new rider.

Stick with teh Suzuki GS500, Ninja 250 and 500 models.... trust me on this. Ppl who claim that can ride on a 600cc+ bikes (this includes teh SV650) have no idea that what tehy call riding is piss when tehy get their ass handed to tehm by a guy on a GS500.

LOL stock SVs are as tame as they come.. we have put 4 girls now onto them as first bikes..
they do not wheelie easy at all.. you can dump the clutch on a 650 and it wont be able to lift up..
it does not power wheelie...

its riding position is the exact same as the GS standard and straight up...

I enduranced raced a 2002 SV650 for 2 seasons... and this is one of the tamest good riding bikes in thw world..
it is far superior to a inline 4 as a beginner bike as the curve is much more nuetral.
you post makes me feel that you have never ridden a SV at all or maybe only the 1000 version..
which I have not ridden so I cannot comment on.

You are ridiculously wrong.

I had the 'most aggressive' gs500, one with clip-ons, and it was far more comfortable than my 03 sv650.

I can also power wheelie in first, and can clutch it up without any problems in 2nd.




One of the worst 'newbie' accidents I've seen was a guy on one of the older sv's, he accidentally dumped the clutch when he grabbed a handful of throttle while stopping.. he ended up hurt pretty bad..


An SV can throw you. It is mosy definetely NOT a first time bike unless you are >200lbs

Dude.. what are you smoking ... to get a stock SV650 NOT S to power wheelie in first we had to replace the exhuast replace the carburator and put a harder shock on the rear as well as doing a 520 conversion with 1 down on the front...(Ohlins) as well as rip all the other crap off the bike to lighten it up and put sharkskins and clipons on it for racing.. THEN would it power in first.. and clutch in second.

I dunno what this SV you had had done to it but off the showroom floor these bikes just arnt that balsey.. they are low on HP and high on weight... and are a perfect beginner bike.

I guess these 98lb 5 foot 3 female riders are just better than you casue NONE had an issue with this as thier first bike..
sportbikes.net also stands by me on this and is one of thier top recommended beginner bikes..
so better do some reading and riding and learn a bit more about the bike before you run your mouth.. as said before over the last 4 years ive held a race license with CCS/CMRA and rode a very tricked out SV as an Endurance bike...
as well as working in a motorcycle race/repair shop from 2000-2003 (Underground Cycles in Houston Texas)

okay, so instead of arguing, how about you give me some more information?

 

[CombatChuk]

If you like the SV650 you'll be fine. I've gotten my uncle's SV650 to wheelie but I had to use the clutch in first gear to get the front wheel 1.5 ft above the ground. A Ninja 250 could lift up the front wheel dumping the clutch at high rpms...