ATOT Gives Awful Advice

[TalonStrike]

A while ago, I was asking questions about careers, and a bunch of people on this site said crap like I wouldn't be able to get a good job, and that I should have done all kinds of things differently with my education. Now, I have a career, a great one at that. If I had followed ATOT's "advice," I would have given up a long time ago. I hate it when someone fails in their life, rather than accepting it as their own personal failure, they try to impose it on society. The attitude like, "this is the way it was for me; therefore, that's the way it is for everyone else." FALSE! Your failures are your own, and that doesn't mean that the next person won't succeed where you failed!

 

[HardcoreRobot]

as exemplified by this thread?

maybe you should just move on to greener pastures

 

[Atomic Playboy]

My girlfriend's father won the California state lottery on two separate occasions. Based on his experience, everyone should invest everything they have in lottery tickets and become billionaires. Based on the experience of hundreds of millions of other people who weren't as lucky, that advice would be stupid. Just because your situation turned out beneficial for you doesn't mean that everyone else in your situation would enjoy the same success. Your logic goes both ways.

 

[TalonStrike]

as exemplified by this thread?

maybe you should just move on to greener pastures

No, my advice would be, "Keep trying to succeed, and don't let the haters on ATOT get you down."

 

[AstroManLuca]

and this is a surprise why?

 

[SunnyD]

If you want good forum advice, you should start posting on 4chan.

 

[Texashiker]

A while ago, I was asking questions about careers, and a bunch of people on this site said crap like I wouldn't be able to get a good job, <snip> FALSE! Your failures are your own, and that doesn't mean that the next person won't succeed where you failed!

1 - You dont know how good a career is going to be until you have been in it for a couple of years. Lets see how you do after a couple of lay-offs and cut backs.

Work a field for 4, 5 or even 6 years, then come back and say how steady it is.

2 - Paragraph breaks, learn them, use them.

 

[TalonStrike]

1 - you dont know how good a career is going to be until you have been in it for a couple of years.

2 - Paragraph breaks, learn them, use them.

1 - more negativity

2 - more negativity

umad, bro?

 

[Lifted]

A while ago, I was asking questions about careers

If I had followed ATOT's "advice,"

I'm surprised (and happy) that things have turned out so well for you, considering the above.

 

[insect9]

1 - more negativity

2 - more negativity

umad, bro?

That's not called negativity, it's called practicality.

 

[wheresmybacon]

I made the mistake of asking career advice once on this forum. I won't do it again.

After the thread exploded into a mostly-negative take on my rationale and methods, I ran the premise and discussion by several well-respected, longtime IT industry guys and they laughed. And they weren't laughing at me.

There are some thoughtful, insightful folks around here who have good stuff to say. Unfortunately, they are the exception and not the rule.

Grats to you on your career, OP.

 

[TalonStrike]

Work a field for 4, 5 or even 6 years, then come back and say how steady it is.

This is you:

Oh boohoo I don't like my job, so I'm going to go on the internet and try to discourage other people because surely there life will end up 100% like my life. I told you you wouldn't be able to get a good job at all and I was...wrong..so...uh I'm sure you won't like that job in 4-6 years herp derp...and if you still do, then I'll say 10-15 years or some other crap like that.

Give me a break *sigh*:\

 

[Texashiker]

umad, bro?

I am not the one asking for advice on the internet.

I also have 2 careers - 14 years experience in 1 field, and 7 years experience in a totally unrelated field.

If one of my career fields bottoms out, I just go back to the other career.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

1 - more negativity

2 - more negativity

umad, bro?

He isn't mad; he is correct. Wait until you've been in the "career" a number of years and have seen layoffs, cutbacks, unreasonable demands, etc, all while trying to stay abreast of all the latest gadgets/toys/developments (on your own time) while having a house and family.

 

[TalonStrike]

I made the mistake of asking career advice once on this forum. I won't do it again.

After the thread exploded into a mostly-negative take on my rationale and methods, I ran the premise and discussion by several well-respected, longtime IT industry guys and they laughed. And they weren't laughing at me.

There are some thoughtful, insightful folks around here who have good stuff to say. Unfortunately, they are the exception and not the rule.

Grats to you on your career, OP.

I know. I've talked to real people who actually have good jobs in IT, and they never echo the ridiculous sentiments voiced on this forum. It's like ATOT is where you go if you hate your job and your life. Awful place for advice.

 

[Macamus Prime]

I guess this is your way of letting everyone know you hate their guts.

When, you could have realized the negative advice they originally gave you,... means they hated yours 1st.

Listen, there is a considerable amount of white trash on these forums. White trash that is angry bored. So bored that life is so awful, they need to spread their diseased emotions to all. Some of them plot and pray for the day when they get to do something good. Like "pwn" someone like you. Or, shoot someone who invades (read: accidentally wanders onto) their property.

Personally, if they say the sky is red, I add; "it's dripping with the blood of aborted fetuses."

 

[NaOH]

I'm glad you're learning this now. Take internet advice with a grain of salt.

 

[dougp]

Sweet, found a picture of you with your coworkers.

Looks like a great job!

 

[Krynj]

Were you the guy that made the thread about getting a job offer, but it wasn't for the amount you wanted, so you made the counter offer, and they took it?

Either way. Taking advice from total strangers on the internet is risky business to begin with. If you're happy in your career, good for you. Keep it up.

 

[TalonStrike]

He isn't mad; he is correct. Wait until you've been in the "career" a number of years and have seen layoffs, cutbacks, unreasonable demands, etc, all while trying to stay abreast of all the latest gadgets/toys/developments (on your own time) while having a house and family.

We get it. You don't like your life or your job. Not everyone's life will be 100% like yours.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

If you're happy in your career, good for you. Keep it up.

This, and when you're unhappy, don't be afraid to change to a new job, field, etc. I think THAT was our point.

 

[TalonStrike]

Were you the guy that made the thread about getting a job offer, but it wasn't for the amount you wanted, so you made the counter offer, and they took it?

Either way. Taking advice from total strangers on the internet is risky business to begin with. If you're happy in your career, good for you. Keep it up.

No I'm not that guy.

 

[Macamus Prime]

Take internet advice with a grain of salt.

I'd rather add donkey diarrhea, broken glass, rusty shards of metal and shoot it back to them through a cannon.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

We get it. You don't like your life or your job. Not everyone's life will be 100&#37; like yours.

Meh, I like my life fine and I love the company I work for, but I took a chance on a new position and don't enjoy it. You win some, lose some. On the bright side, the job I am in is in a hot field so I will make even more serious money later and people would die to work where I work.

 

[geecee]

A while ago, I was asking questions about careers, and a bunch of people on this site said crap like I wouldn't be able to get a good job, and that I should have done all kinds of things differently with my education. Now, I have a career, a great one at that. If I had followed ATOT's "advice," I would have given up a long time ago. I hate it when someone fails in their life, rather than accepting it as their own personal failure, they try to impose it on society. The attitude like, "this is the way it was for me; therefore, that's the way it is for everyone else." FALSE! Your failures are your own, and that doesn't mean that the next person won't succeed where you failed!

Just out of curiosity, why would you go to a forum full of complete strangers and ask for career advice? Why wouldn't you ask family and friends? Or ask them to refer you to people in the field that you wanted to get into?

Don't get me wrong, there are some good people here and some good advice to be had, but probably not the first place I would think of for life/career counseling.