Atkins people: Explain to me this

[minendo]

As advertised:
[*]1 shot bacardi
[*]6 ounces diet cola

0 carbs
0 sugars
66 calories

Where do the calories come from?

Furthermore, I would like you to explain to me how an alcoholic beverage contains 0 carbs.

Good luck.

 

[Analog]

is alcohol a carb? I thought it was turned to simple sugars once in your system.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
is alcohol a carb? I thought it was turned to simple sugars once in your system.

Alcohol = ethanol, which equals carb.

Even simple sugars are carbs.

 

[fumbduck]

Alcohol is not a carb. While on atkins you can drink all the vodka/whiskey or whatever that you want. Alcohol has NO carbs.

Beer, on the other hand, has much carbs.

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
is alcohol a carb? I thought it was turned to simple sugars once in your system.

Alcohol = ethanol, which equals carb.

Even simple sugars are carbs.

Me don't think so. The FDA classifies sugars differently. Why else would they list sugars -and- carbs then?

 

[conjur]

http://www.drinksmixer.com/desc185.html

http://www2.potsdam.edu/alcohol-info/AlcoholCaloriesAndWeight.html

 

[DorkBoy]

Originally posted by: fumbduck
Alcohol is not a carb. While on atkins you can drink all the vodka/whiskey or whatever that you want. Alcohol has NO carbs.

Beer, on the other hand, has much carbs.

some, but other beers are 3 grams of carbs, you can have 7 a day for your carbs (not induction weeks)

 

[floccus]

bacardi has more than just ethanol... although the ethanol is where the energy (calories) are derived.

 

[Babbles]

Alcohol as in Ethanol has calories, but no carbs and it is not a sugar, not even close.

Beer, though, is full of maltrose a sugar.

 

[floccus]

Beer, though, is full of maltrose a sugar.

Just b/c I feel like being a major microbiology major jerk... Beer has more than just maltose for sugars, if it even has maltose. Many beers are made using cane sugar (sucrose) bases.

 

[Rudee]

Great, I can see people reading too much into this and dieting on rum & cokes alone to "get in shape"

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: minendo
As advertised:
[*]1 shot bacardi
[*]6 ounces diet cola

0 carbs
0 sugars
66 calories

Where do the calories come from?

Furthermore, I would like you to explain to me how an alcoholic beverage contains 0 carbs.

Good luck.

The calories come from the alochol (duh).

Carbs in alcohol
More

How the Liver Breaks Down Alcohol
The alcohol dehydrogenase enzyme breaks down alcohol by removing hydrogen in two steps:

1. Alcohol dehydrogenase oxidizes alcohol to acetaldehyde

2. Acetaldehyde dehydrogenase oxidizes the acetaldehyde to acetyl CoA. These reactions produce hydrogen ions (acid). The B vitamin niacin (in its role as the coenzyme NAD) picks up these hydrogen ions (becoming NADH). Thus when alcohol is metabolized, NAD diminishes and NADH increases.

During alcohol metabolism, NAD becomes unavailable for the many other vital body processes for which it is needed, including glycolysis, the TCA cycle and the electron transport chain. Without NAD, the energy pathway is blocked, and alternative routes are taken, with serious physical consequences:

· The accumulation of hydrogen atoms shifts the body?s balance toward acid.

· The accumulation of NADH slows the TCA cycle, resulting in a build up of pyruvate and acetyl CoA. Excess acetyl CoA results in fatty acid synthesis and fat begins to clog the liver. (An accumulation of fat in the liver can be observed after only a single night of heavy drinking).

Source

Viper GTS

 

[Saulbadguy]

cause alcohol is a source of fuel for the body. it can burn it for energy.

 

[Chrono]

isn't it apparent?
man o man wtf.

 

[StageLeft]

Damn, I'm gonna do atkins when a drink lots of rum

Thing with me though is when I drink I get a RAVENOUS desire to eat EVERYTHING in sight, and generally this desire leans towards the carb side of things. One link above said that increase of booze = decrease of sugar in many people. That surely isn't the case for me. It's actually ungodly how much food I'll want to eat once I get a few beer in me :Q

 

[conjur]

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: fumbduck
Alcohol is not a carb. While on atkins you can drink all the vodka/whiskey or whatever that you want. Alcohol has NO carbs.

Beer, on the other hand, has much carbs.

Alcohol is a carb. CH3CH2OH is a carbohydrate. I don't care what your body converts it to. It is still a carbohydrate.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
cause alcohol is a source of fuel for the body. it can burn it for energy.

No sh!t. Sugar (C6H12O6 ---> glucose) is a an necessary source of fuel for the body, yet Atkins' dieters think it is the devil. Please explain.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: minendo
As advertised:
[*]1 shot bacardi
[*]6 ounces diet cola

0 carbs
0 sugars
66 calories

Where do the calories come from?

Furthermore, I would like you to explain to me how an alcoholic beverage contains 0 carbs.

Good luck.

The calories come from the alochol (duh).

Carbs in alcohol
More

How the Liver Breaks Down Alcohol
The alcohol dehydrogenase enzyme breaks down alcohol by removing hydrogen in two steps:

1. Alcohol dehydrogenase oxidizes alcohol to acetaldehyde

2. Acetaldehyde dehydrogenase oxidizes the acetaldehyde to acetyl CoA. These reactions produce hydrogen ions (acid). The B vitamin niacin (in its role as the coenzyme NAD) picks up these hydrogen ions (becoming NADH). Thus when alcohol is metabolized, NAD diminishes and NADH increases.

During alcohol metabolism, NAD becomes unavailable for the many other vital body processes for which it is needed, including glycolysis, the TCA cycle and the electron transport chain. Without NAD, the energy pathway is blocked, and alternative routes are taken, with serious physical consequences:

· The accumulation of hydrogen atoms shifts the body?s balance toward acid.

· The accumulation of NADH slows the TCA cycle, resulting in a build up of pyruvate and acetyl CoA. Excess acetyl CoA results in fatty acid synthesis and fat begins to clog the liver. (An accumulation of fat in the liver can be observed after only a single night of heavy drinking).

Source

Viper GTS

You provided an accurate method of breakdown, but since when is alcohol not a carbohydrate?

 

[Babbles]

The Atkins diet people try to cut back sugar (just like nearly every diet out there) because you want your body to go thru ketosis, or basically some other method for an energy source.
To burn fat.
If you consume carbs in the form of sugars then you excercise your body burns those recently consumed sugars, not the stored fat.

No, I am not on the Atkins diet yet I took the time to do some reading. You may want to do the same.

By the way, no ethanol is not a carbohydrate. Sugars and polymers of sugars are carbohydrates.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: Babbles
The Atkins diet people try to cut back sugar (just like nearly every diet out there) because you want your body to go thru ketosis, or basically some other method for an energy source.
To burn fat.
If you consume carbs in the form of sugars then you excercise your body burns those recently consumed sugars, not the stored fat.

No, I am not on the Atkins diet yet I took the time to do some reading. You may want to do the same.

By the way, no ethanol is not a carbohydrate. Sugars and polymers of sugars are carbohydrates.

Alcohol is a carbohyrdate. Arguining on this subject only makes you look like a moron since it could be argued that sugar is an alcohol.

 

[beer]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Babbles
The Atkins diet people try to cut back sugar (just like nearly every diet out there) because you want your body to go thru ketosis, or basically some other method for an energy source.
To burn fat.
If you consume carbs in the form of sugars then you excercise your body burns those recently consumed sugars, not the stored fat.

No, I am not on the Atkins diet yet I took the time to do some reading. You may want to do the same.

By the way, no ethanol is not a carbohydrate. Sugars and polymers of sugars are carbohydrates.

Alcohol is a carbohyrdate. Arguining on this subject only makes you look like a moron since it could be argued that sugar is an alcohol.

Remember what I said about short fuses in the PM I sent you yesterday? Prime example A

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: beer

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Babbles
The Atkins diet people try to cut back sugar (just like nearly every diet out there) because you want your body to go thru ketosis, or basically some other method for an energy source.
To burn fat.
If you consume carbs in the form of sugars then you excercise your body burns those recently consumed sugars, not the stored fat.

No, I am not on the Atkins diet yet I took the time to do some reading. You may want to do the same.

By the way, no ethanol is not a carbohydrate. Sugars and polymers of sugars are carbohydrates.

Alcohol is a carbohyrdate. Arguining on this subject only makes you look like a moron since it could be argued that sugar is an alcohol.

Remember what I said about short fuses in the PM I sent you yesterday? Prime example A

Short fuse? Sure, I agree with that. However, I do not agree with misinformed people disagreeing on a simple chemistry topic.

 

[conjur]

http://wine.about.com/library/weekly/aa061603.htm

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Babbles
The Atkins diet people try to cut back sugar (just like nearly every diet out there) because you want your body to go thru ketosis, or basically some other method for an energy source.
To burn fat.
If you consume carbs in the form of sugars then you excercise your body burns those recently consumed sugars, not the stored fat.

No, I am not on the Atkins diet yet I took the time to do some reading. You may want to do the same.

By the way, no ethanol is not a carbohydrate. Sugars and polymers of sugars are carbohydrates.

Alcohol is a carbohyrdate. Arguining on this subject only makes you look like a moron since it could be argued that sugar is an alcohol.

Allright you twit. Carbohydrates are defined as polyhydroxylated ketones and/or aldehydes. Ethanol has one -OH, that sure as heck is not polyhydroxylated nor is the ethyl function group a ketone or an aldehyde.

This is the chemical definition not what you want to think of it as.