what i am wondering is, how does ATI determine what the value of the card u trade in is worth? do they only let u trade in one card, or can u gather a batch of crappy cards and snip away at the price? one cool thing i noticed about this program tho, was that for the 64mb radeon vivo ddr, there is an additional $50 MIR. so if someone were able to chop off a good $30-$40, then get the $50 MIR, they could get a retail 64mb radeon for about $80. thats not bad at all...