ATI X800XT - Ridiculous temps? HELP: Won't post! NEW: It works?

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bentlegen

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I was wondering what kind of temperatures users here are getting with the X800 line of graphics cards.

Using ATITool, I'm getting ~65 degrees at idle, and over 80 degrees at load. I'm running my X800 XT at stock 500/500 core/memory. The ambient temperature of my case is 42 degrees, according to the tool.

I have difficulty believing this is normal. Did I get a junk card?

EDIT: I should also mention that ATITool detects the card to be an X800 XT, it doesn't report any graphical errors, and every game I've run so far has played fine.

NEW: This morning I got up, powered up my PC and the motherboard won't post - there's an beep/error message. I immediately think to take out the ATI card, put it my "old" 6600 GT and it boots up just fine. I try putting the ATI card back, won't post again. I think I was sold a defective card from the beginning. Any ideas? It was working just fine last night when I turned it off.

EVEN NEWER: So I had a friend test out this card without the 6-pin molex adapter (because he didn't have one), and the card gave a video signal displaying a "insert power cable" error message on his monitor! I did the same thing and I didn't get anything but my motherboard beeping. I have a feeling these problems I've been having are related to the motherboard now. I'm going to try the card again several times tonight - I was wondering if anyone knew if it was possible to use *only* the 2nd PCI-E port in an SLI motherboard, and how to do it. Even if it won't work for me, at least there's the possibility of me selling it again and getting some of my money back.

Thanks,
Ben
 
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Todd33

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Same temps here, I think it's normal. you can always buy an 3rd party HSF. If it doesn't crash or have errors, then it's working.
 
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An ambient temperature of 42C is pretty darn warm. Sounds like you just need better case cooling for your case. Mine is typically low 30's the highest I have seen is on hot days and it reaches 37C. I can really tell the difference in the air temps that comes out of my case when its hot like that.
 
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bentlegen

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An ambient temperature of 42C is pretty darn warm. Sounds like you just need better case cooling for your case. Mine is typically low 30's the highest I have seen is on hot days and it reaches 37C. I can really tell the difference in the air temps that comes out of my case when its hot like that.
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That's the ambient temp according to ATITool, probably coming off the video card sensor. The motherboard temp is in the range you describe. I'm using a LIAN-LI aluminum case with 4 case fans in an air conditioned room. [shrug]
 
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Since we're on this card, has anyone tried OC'ing the x800xt? How much can you push it before it gets artifacts?
 
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bentlegen

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Since we're on this card, has anyone tried OC'ing the x800xt? How much can you push it before it gets artifacts?
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Well, I made the silly mistake of trying to OC the card *before* even looking at what the temps were. I reached 430 core without any artifacts before noticing that the temperature was reaching 90 degrees and decided to call it quits.
 
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Sounds like a defective card. My x800xl idles in the low 40's and gets up in the high 50's from what I can tell, I have horrible air flow in my case to boot, to 12cm fans running on 5V, very quiet ;)
 
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Originally posted by: bentlegen
An ambient temperature of 42C is pretty darn warm. Sounds like you just need better case cooling for your case. Mine is typically low 30's the highest I have seen is on hot days and it reaches 37C. I can really tell the difference in the air temps that comes out of my case when its hot like that.
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That's the ambient temp according to ATITool, probably coming off the video card sensor. The motherboard temp is in the range you describe. I'm using a LIAN-LI aluminum case with 4 case fans in an air conditioned room. [shrug]
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What? are you really telling me where I am reading temps from??? How can you tell this? I AM using ATI Tool...
Typically my GPU core runs at 35C to 41C on really hot days and goes up into the mid 50's on load... The cards ambient temp according to ATI tool is ussually 31C and like I said 37C on hot days. 41C is the highest I have ever seen for an ambient temp on the card while playing CSS.

My card is also vmodded to run a vGPU of 1.45 instead of the stock 1.4. I also vmodded the vDDQ but I don't remember what that is at.
 
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bentlegen

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My x800xl idles in the low 40's and gets up in the high 50's
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Typically my GPU core runs at 35C to 41C on really hot days and goes up into the mid 50's on load...
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[sigh] Why didn't people tell me this yesterday? At the very least I could've returned it to the guy in still-working form (I bought it used) - now who knows if I'm going to get my money back. Yeah, it's not under warranty either.
 
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Lifer
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Mind you I do have a Zalman VF700 Cu cooling mine so that drops temps about 10C from a stock cooler.
 
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bentlegen

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Well, according to my engineering friends at work, the explanation seems to be this: the super heat of my card expanded some of the tracks, and then when I turned the computer off overnight they cooled, contracted and broke. If I had left the computer on, I might have been in better shape.

[insert profanity]
 
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bentlegen

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Mind you I do have a Zalman VF700 Cu cooling mine so that drops temps about 10C from a stock cooler.
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But you've also got it overclocked, according to your sig. They probably balance out.
 
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Correct. Either way your temps reaching even 80C is quiet a bit over what typical x800XT cards reach. I believe with my card completely stock on load it would reach maybe 65C. Yours temps obviously are way over that. I don't quite remember the idle temps but I think it was around 50C.
 
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RollWave

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I've got the same issue with the AIW X800XT. I think it normally runs hot. Yours is a bit hotter than mine but if you're not having issues I wouldnt be worried.
 
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Did you guys read the post? It's broken! I bet the guy had a different cooler on it and just slapped this one back on, incorrectly... you could ask him, but if you have only used it a couple days and it broke, I would say that it pretty much came DOA. It should run for awhile, and if heat killed it within a day or two, that is certainly not your fault unless you run you computer in your oven... ;)

Nat
 
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Originally posted by: Kensai
Seems fairly normal. They're hot cards. Plus, it's a single slot cooler.
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I don't think 80C is at all normal for the X800 series. If it was a 6800 yeah most typically run in the 70's on full load, and some run in the 80's but with x800's they ussually only run in the 60's even with a single slot cooler. He said his was even reaching in to the 90's AKA HOT. So hot, it probably killed his card...
 
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blckgrffn

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time to contact the guy you bought it from and ask WTF is up. You are probably at least a little liable though as you allowed it to run out of spec for so long though... good luck in getting through this though! I am sorry to hear about your loss :(

Nat
 
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aatf510

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40-50c seems too low, it's the probably the temp for an xl.
I remember my old x800xt PE idle @ 40-50c and load @ 60-70.
I have seen people e-mail ATI about high temp, and the response was that unless the get over 90c.
It should still work fine.
 
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ive idled at 50c, load at 130c for about 3 weeks of non stop gaming before i got a new fan and my card still lives today
 
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Kogan

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You're only screwed if you believe you are :) Tell the guy what's up and tell him the card you received was obviously bad. Demand a refund/etc, file some fraud reports with whoever you need to, and make a big scene about it on the forums where he sold it to you - that will usually get a lot of people bugging him and trying to help you get your money back.

You could also possibly contact ATI to verify what card it is and if there's anything they can do about it.
 
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