ATI X19xx series GPU's may help make a cure?

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jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: josh6079

I think that message would better serve Crusader, since back during the forth of July he was claiming that people who bought Canadian/ATI products weren't doing service for America and he had his Nvidia card because he was "damn proud to be an American". Rendering different protein fold possibilities may contribute far more to Americans than buying their own products.

^ Holy cr@p, seriously!? That guy will try absolutely anything to plug Nvidia. What a pawn.
 

Creig

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Originally posted by: hmorphone
You're still contributing, just not at quite as fast a rate (cause your CPUs doing the work, not an X1900.)

The amazing thing to me is that a person running F@H on one X1900 will be turning in results equal to the work done by twenty to forty CPUs! :eek:

That's quite an increase in processing power.
 

Rza79

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http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/radeon-x1900xtx-graphs/xbitmark.gif

Check out the last three results in the graph.
This will explain why FAH runs too slow on nvidia hardware.
While nvidia has full support for PS3.0, some fuctions (like branching) are implemented very poorly in typical nvidia style because no game uses it yet.
Just like the FX series supported DX9, the implementation was way inferior compared to the Radeon 9700/9800. But since almost no game used DX9, nvidia got away with it quiet easy.
The same thing is happening right now again.
And people wonder why the X1x00's are so much more complex.
 

MrX8503

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I think the main problem of this whole thing is that I dont think it has enough advertising. I checked the stats and there are about 500,000 people in this program. I dont think thats quite enough.
 

josh6079

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Originally posted by: Rza79
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/radeon-x1900xtx-graphs/xbitmark.gif

Check out the last three results in the graph.
This will explain why FAH runs too slow on nvidia hardware.
While nvidia has full support for PS3.0, some fuctions (like branching) are implemented very poorly in typical nvidia style because no game uses it yet.
Just like the FX series supported DX9, the implementation was way inferior compared to the Radeon 9700/9800. But since almost no game used DX9, nvidia got away with it quiet easy.
The same thing is happening right now again.
And people wonder why the X1x00's are so much more complex.

The X1900 has always been a strong GPU. Another program that shows just how much more complicated instructions can be dealt with by an R580 was made by munky. Of course, I wonder how the upcoming G80's / R600's will handle this.

I just wonder if they're going to try adding SLI if they're thinking about CrossFire. I mean, one Nvidia GPU might not be able to handle this but what about two? Of course, they may just wait for G80 and not worry about adding current SLI support.
 

Zebo

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Zebo and sons@anandtech Just started we have 4 X2's an Imac, a sony laptop and an old batron...all are not always on but I installed on ea and should begin to show progess soon.
 

Zebo

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Yeah a big zero... you have to complete a work unit before it registers.. they take about a day to a week depening how fast core one has.. I don't have ATI anything let alone a 1900 so it will be slow:(
 

cmdrdredd

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Think I'll switch from D2OL on this system to F@H so I can use my x1900, and use my A64 X2 for D2OL (almost 24/7).
 

JBT

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I've done a few with my CPU back in the day. I'll have to start up again with my x1900XT tomorrow when the GPU version is released!!!
 

TanisHalfElven

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They use ATI 1900 only because they're the first ones to put 32 bit floating point hardware on their graphics card. The "issue" with nVidia's cards is that they don't have that capability. While the math can still be done on a nVidia card - the same way having a 32-bit CPU doesn't mean you can't process 64-bit variables - the processing overhead takes away much of the advantage. Development may be more complex, too.

this was one of the comments on the daily tech page. someone here mind explaining what it means.
 

josh6079

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Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
They use ATI 1900 only because they're the first ones to put 32 bit floating point hardware on their graphics card. The "issue" with nVidia's cards is that they don't have that capability. While the math can still be done on a nVidia card - the same way having a 32-bit CPU doesn't mean you can't process 64-bit variables - the processing overhead takes away much of the advantage. Development may be more complex, too.

this was one of the comments on the daily tech page. someone here mind explaining what it means.

The R580 core is a more complex design than the G71. It is one that balances games, physics, and better floating point / dynamic branching calculations.
 

Wreckage

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This is good stuff. I have been running Folding@Home since 2002.

You will want to monitor your temps as it runs your CPU\GPU at full, although with winter coming that could be a good thing.
 

gsellis

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Originally posted by: schneiderguy
will a x1800 work?
Not yet. If you read the article... ;) it says that they are doing the 1900 first and then will see where they can go with other ATI products.

As I have mentioned before, the GPU is not just for games. My Avid/Pinnacle video editor uses it and that is now being adopted by Sony and Adobe.

 

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
This is good stuff. I have been running Folding@Home since 2002.

You will want to monitor your temps as it runs your CPU\GPU at full, although with winter coming that could be a good thing.
I haven't done F@H for a long time now, but I remember a GROMACs WU was better than P95TT for testing overclock stability too. I had OCs that passed P95TT for 8+hrs that would crash out in less than an hour with a GROMAC.



Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: hmorphone
You're still contributing, just not at quite as fast a rate (cause your CPUs doing the work, not an X1900.)

The amazing thing to me is that a person running F@H on one X1900 will be turning in results equal to the work done by twenty to forty CPUs! :eek:

That's quite an increase in processing power.
Which means quite an increase in work units completed for the power consumption. :light:
 

Zebo

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Which means HARDOCP is really gonna kick everyones butt... they are serious ATI fans over there.
 

gsellis

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Which means HARDOCP is really gonna kick everyones butt... they are serious ATI fans over there.
We tried to tell you. You can lead a horse to water... :p

jk

 

sandorski

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I'm a BOINCer, but damn I'm shocked how much faster the X1900 GPU is for his type of work over a cpu. If BOINC goes this route I'd be tempted to get an X1900 myself(eventually I will, or something of the next Gen from ATI), but as already mentioned I'd be somewhat concerned about the extra power consumption
 

Zebo

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Anyone seen real benchmarks? I may get a x1900xt 256 for my office machine which never shuts down if it's really 20X faster than just a CPU. I need a new video card anyway (fried the 6600GT)
 

Icepick

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Anandtech is quite the underachiver. We have over 100K members probably more than all those other forums and only ranked 23? Little bitty sites like SPCR and CustomPC got us beat? Represent! I'm joining up.

Me too. :)
 

MrX8503

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I just joined up as well.

Man it takes AGES! to complete a work unit. HOw are these other people have thousands of work units? Have they been running for like 10 years?
 

Avalon

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Originally posted by: MrX8503
I just joined up as well.

Man it takes AGES! to complete a work unit. HOw are these other people have thousands of work units? Have they been running for like 10 years?

I feel the same way :)
I think I was given a very large WU for my first, so it's going to take a couple days. I'd like it to hurry up and complete so I can switch over to the GPU client.