ATI stock worth getting

[romtech]

i have just got some tai stock at 11.77 on the toronto stock exchange... just wondering will it go up any time soon ... i think it will with radeon sails doing ok and gamecube comming out in a few months i am hoping the stock will go up... what do you guys think

 

[Novgrod]

No offense, but this doesn't sound like a computer hardware question and would be better suited to an investment forum.

That being said, I'm humbly going to submit that it's not. Radeon 2 comes out about the same time as the geforce 4. That, and those crazy Canadians have never been known for their protestant ethic, what with the quasi-socialism and all

 

[romtech]

i only posted it here since you are the guys who know most about pc hardware and buy it too thus making you guys the best judges.... anyways hope its that big of a deal me posting this topic...

 

[Soccerman]

That, and those crazy Canadians have never been known for their protestant ethic, what with the quasi-socialism and all

heh, and is there anything wrong with that? we do alright, though our government sometimes makes stupid mistakes (ever heard of the Avro Arrow?)

As for ATi stock going up, the most likely time that would happen is when the gamecube is released, or figures on their recent profits come out.. that is, assuming they do have an overall profit for that quarter..

 

[AmbitV]

radeon II will be the start of the comeback for Ati. There is a reason why it is being release so late - Ati has stated that they pushed back the radeon II release to ensure that when it is released it is the best performing card. On top of that, if you look at the recent roadmaps that have been posted, Radeon III is scheduled for release very quickly after Radeon II.

In any case, the stock seems way undervalued compared to NVDA. I picked some up a while back.

 

[GTaudiophile]

The Radeon is betweem the GF2 and GF3 in terms of features. It costs less than $200 for the most expensive version. There are few games that really use the T&L GPU of the Radeon and GF2, much less the GF3. The Radeon has better image and DVD-playback quality than either GF2 or GF3. Hence, the Radeon is one popular card. I have no doubt that the Radeon2 will give the GF3U a run for its money. Don't expect ATI's stock to pull a Micro$oft, but I would expect low to moderate growth. Knowing that the Canadian government would probably try to bail ATI out before they went under, I'd say you can expect average-to-low risk as well. Not a great investment, but I wouldn't say it was a bad one either.

 

[AmbitV]

oh yea, and from Sharkyextreme E3 report:

"
Since the focus of the show was an incredible console war, ATI took their PC business to a nearby hotel where we were fed information about ATI's follow-up to the RADEON, R200. All of the juicy details (hardware specifications, additional technologies, and release dates) are still under tight wraps, but we can say that if ATI's next-generation part is a success, the days of low-polygon models and minimal geometry throughput will be over. On the bright side, you can expect more information regarding this latest technology within the next couple of weeks.
"

 

[romtech]

this is my first time investing i put all my eggs in one basket ATI.... i know the stock went from 5.60 to 11 back then i was straped on cash it would have been an amazing buy at 5.60 it was just a month ago oh well now i hope it will go up to 20 ish by the end of the summer... i know the golden rule dont put all your eggs in one basket... but hay its worth the risk in my opinion ati is only going up in the next few months and is the rumers are true that intel is thinking of buying ati out then i could make a nice profit.. this is my first time investing and i chose a computer compenent company caz thats all i know and looking at the other compnies ie intel nvidia thay are already high priced stocks ati is low priced and has up side.......

 

[romtech]

i think its a great stock to invest in it has brand loyelty and has been around for a while..... and the price is soooooo low even if thay did take a loss this year...

 

[romtech]

finally do you guys have any other stock picks ...... i was thinking intel at 30 is not bad but amd is comming on very strong so i am not sure...

 

[GTaudiophile]

AMD...Micro$oft might not even be bad. Coke is always good...GE ain't bad...also consider some Energy, Bio-Tech, or Healthcare stocks.

 

[rickn]

<< radeon II will be the start of the comeback for Ati >>



Same thing was said about the Rage128 and Radeon.

 

[Soccerman]

both AMD and Intel are probably solid bets, seeing as AMD is basically a flash memory manufacturer (which makes PILES of money!)..

I'd rather invest in Ballard though, their stock has been increasing fairly quickly but also has the potential to KEEP increasing, becuase they're probably THE key player in Fuel Cell developement.. in other words, BIG MONEY!

 

[Soccerman]

Same thing was said about the Rage128 and Radeon.

both of which did fairly well for ATi! the Rage128 was a massive OEM success, and the Radeon has broken into the Retail markets alot more (though they could still do alot better). Unfortunately for ATi, the Radeon hasn't sold well in the OEM's, AFAIK..

 

[rickn]

Unforunately, to investors they don't care how well a product sells if the returns aren't there. ATI continues to lose money.

 

[Quickfingerz]

ATI leads in retail sales... if they could just do as well in OEM's

 

[Soccerman]

heh, guys ATi is one of the largest OEM manufacturers.. though I don't know why I haven't seen Radeons much in OEMs, I think the GameCube certainly applies as an OEM contribution..

ATI leads in retail sales... if they could just do as well in OEM's

not true, most likely nVidia leads in overall retail sales at any given point, it's just that you when looking on a per-manufacturer basis (card makers), you get it all split up. ATi needs to increase sales in both Retail and OEM. one way to boost OEM is to do well in retail (word of mouth is powerful). Of course, you have to push your OEM parts to be more powerful then the competition..

 

[Finality]

Sorry I dont think ATI stock has much merrit now.
I remember a lot of people screaming about the low price of 3dfx stock 1-2 years ago. &quot;I'm going in tomorrow with $5000, wish me luck&quot;. Sorry but they probably got $500 back from that.

Other than that I would stay away from ATI for now. NVIdia has stolen the show for desktop/workstation (except beating out Intel for low end workstations).

ATI only has a strangle hold on the Desktop and Apple line of products both of which NVidia has taken a very very big stab at.

<< Same thing was said about the Rage128 and Radeon. >>



Here here someone with brains for remembering the past Wasn't the V5 supposed to save 3dfx?

Soccerman is correct while 3dfx where busy screaming about how they led in retail sales adding up the numbers from all NVidia product line shipments easily beat 3dfx.

NVidia looks like a long run winner. I am not sure how well ATI will do in the future simply relying on there record. They need to do some major work to come out of the hile they dug themselves into. I think it will take near bankrupcy for them to wake up just like it took a long time for 3dfx to wake up. Yes I know they are two very different companies. However this industry is unforgiving and missing 2 product deadlines translates to the death of a company when challenged by a strong rival.