ATI radeon 64 VIVO Video capturing questions

KK

Lifer
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I just set up a windows 2000 system with a new radeon card in it. My question is, how does this video capture thing work. I was able to hook the camcorder up to it and was able to save the video from it. I did a clip about 7 1/2 minutes which turned to be about 350MB. When I went back and tried to play it, it said it could not play it. I am using just the software that came with the ATI card. From what I get from reading on these boards is that the drivers for ATI kinda are on the shady side, is also the software this way? Is there other software that will work better than ATI's? When I saved this clip it saved it as a MP2 format, is this mpeg2? How do I compress it down to this new mpeg4 format? Is this what I would need to do to stick a 2 hour tape on one CD?

Thanks,
KK
 

KK

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Well, I load the drivers 5.0.3035 and I was able to bring up a mp2 file, but then the dang computer froze up. Using win2000, I didn't think that it could freeze up if it were a application problem. Would this mean that this ATI card is a POS?
 

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Lifer
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I just did notice something, I went into see what my IRQ were set for and here is what was set for IRQ9:
Microsoft ACPI COmpliant System
Creative SB Live
HP ethernet
Radeon
VIA USB Universal Host Controller
Via USB Universal Host Controller
Win2000 Promise Ultra100 IDE Controller

This just seems so stupid to me. Why would it throw everything on IRQ9 when IRQ 5,7,10,11 are vacant? Should I change these? And if so, how would I change these since I can't take it off autoconfiguration?

Thanks,
KK
 

NicColt

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I had the same problems with the MP2 thing, I did a few tweaks and everything works fine now, well almost. Also irq assignments are not/should not be a problem in W2K.

This is my personal opinion and it has worked for me and others I have corresponded with.
You didn't say what type of mobo you have? Here's what I recommend.

Goto rage3d.com and download the latest drivers and read the Radeon Guide and specially the part about the "HyperZ in the Registry" you'll probably need to tweak those reg settings.

1. If you have an Asus board, update your bios to 1005C or later.

Once the bios update done, hard boot and go directly into bios again. Reset the defaults, save and HARD boot again, goto bios and then modify your bios all you want. save and Hard boot again.

2. re-Download DX8, VIA 4-1 v4.28 (if you have a VIA chipset) and the 4.13.7068 or 5.13.3092 ATI drivers.
3. Uninstall all ATI components using Add/Remove Programs in Control Panel
4. Locate the ATI Multimedia folder in C:\Program Files, and remove it
5. Do a Find Files and delete any ATI*.* files that you think should not be there.
6. Restart Windows (in VGA mode)

In this order.

7. If you have a Via chipset Install the Via 4-in-1 v4.28 drivers from http://www.viatech.com/drivers
IMPORTANT: make sur the AGP support is loaded in Standard mode (not turbo)
8. Install (or re-install) the latest version of DirectX (8.0) even if you already have it installed.
9. Install the latest ATI display drivers, AND do not restart or reboot your system.
10. Search and locate ATIGART.exe (in the ATI/Gart dir) and rename it to OLDGART.exe
11. From the CD - Install the ATI Multimedia Centre ONLY, no drivers or VGART.
12. Restart the system, set your video defaults.
13. Do the reg tweaks recommended from Rage3D / Radeon guide. Reboot.

For some weird reason, this setup seems to work better. Once I did it this way it cleared a bunch of problems I was having and was able to play MP2 files no matter where they are located on the HD. Hope this helps.

On the capture and compression thing.

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ATi doesn't (yet) support Video for Windows on the Radeon cards, it is however supported on the AIW-128 GO FIGURE. VfW is an industry standard that is included with every capture software and hardware on the market. Not supporting VfW on an AIW Radeon is like having the Gforce2Ultra not supporting D3D (AAAAARRRRGGGG DAMM YOU ATI, YOU BUNCH OF FOOLS :|:|:|:|

OK I feel better now, so since DAMM YOU ATi doesn't support VfW there's no capture device installed. you have to capture through software that supports DirectShow. Unfortunately hardly no software supports direcshow video capture. There has to be some sort of brain dead lawyer responsible for this at ATi. OKOKOK... so you can choose MPG as the compression and modify the bit rate, to have smaller files or if you have divx installed you can choose AVI and choose divx as the codec. If you want quality I'd go with MPG first and modify the bit rate, if you want small files divx is my choice. Good luck.

Edit:ATi bunch of fools.
sorry
 

KK

Lifer
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Thanks NicColt for the reply. I jumped the gun and did something I don't know if it will screw anything up. I went into the device manager and removed the ACPI and replaced it with Standard PC. This threw most of the items that were on IRQ 9 to vacant IRQs. I then loaded that divx codec. I think when I did that, I lost the ability to play these mp2 files. How do I fix that? Also I got that FlaskMPEG program and was able to convert the mp2 files to an .avi format. Is this .avi, the Divx format? And is Divx, mpeg4?

KK

ps, I got a 1Ghz on a A7V
 

NicColt

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Did ya get it working. also Ati has some newer drivers you may want to check them out.
 

KK

Lifer
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No, I've been playing around with this divx and vcd stuff alittle, haven't tried to do anymore capturing. Is .mp2 the only format that you can save video in?