If you're going to get a geforce2 pro, I recommend the gainward geforce2 pro, I have a gainward geforce3 and after reading anandtech's reviews, tweak3d and other sites all giving it a rating of 9.0 or highly I decided to give this company a try and it's great. I've seen PNY for a long time but never really brought their stuff because I remember their memory was always overpriced, I decided to try a PNY product such as their 80mincdrw cdrw, when it came, the cdrw did say 80min cdrw on each cd, but when I tried it, it was only 650MB 74mins and the cds weren't even formatted, whose's to blame, I won't say buy.com is at fault because the cdrw clearly states 80mins, and so does the PNY website, I tried to call tem once but got a answer machine, and I knew fat chance they might call back. Gainward has been in the videocard business longer, so go with the company wih more experience.