Take a look at newegg.com were it shows the eta for the 7500 and the 8500 for 9/24/01. The 8500 has a picture which shows a card with dual display and an s-video out. Will the 8500 suport full dual display or is newegg simply showing the R200 version of the Radeon VE ie R8300, I think which should be slower then the 8500?