ATi R520 Slated For Oct 5th Launch

[DrZoidberg]

Apparently ATi r520 or should i say x1800 is coming out on 5th october according to vr-zone.

ATI r520

"ATi will be unveiling R520 officially on October 5th but we do not expect mass production of the cards till end of Oct. So far we heard only 1K of such cards produced for customers qualifications and reviews. Yield rate for 16ps and 24ps R520 is under 25%. "

Not sure if article is 100% accurate but if yield is under 25% does that mean 75% is thrown away? ATI would be losing heaps of money if this is the case.

 

[Banzai042]

Yea, yields that low would be a huge problem. I doubt that they would be releasing that soon if they had only 25% yields. I would guess that at least part of that article is wrong, if not the whole thing. I'm not seeing anything on the ATI website that indicates an october launch, which may mean that they are going for a true launch like Nvidia, but if they are then how did news leak out? Something doesn't seem right to me.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: DrZoidberg
Apparently ATi r520 or should i say x1800 is coming out on 5th october according to vr-zone.

ATI r520

"ATi will be unveiling R520 officially on October 5th but we do not expect mass production of the cards till end of Oct. So far we heard only 1K of such cards produced for customers qualifications and reviews. Yield rate for 16ps and 24ps R520 is under 25%. "

Not sure if article is 100% accurate but if yield is under 25% does that mean 75% is thrown away? ATI would be losing heaps of money if this is the case.

they prolly use the cards for the lower clocked, lower end cards

 

[dug777]

when is DOD: Source coming out..and Lost Coast...with HDR?

that's my guess anyway...

 

[VIAN]

Wow. Now we October is limited release and November is full release. Thank god I decided not to wait and get a 7800. ATI is really just... ah :| They're barely making it this gen.

 

[klah]

Originally posted by: DrZoidberg
"Yield rate for 16ps and 24ps R520 is under 25%."

Not sure if article is 100% accurate but if yield is under 25% does that mean 75% is thrown away? ATI would be losing heaps of money if this is the case.

X1800LE has 12 pipelines

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: VIAN
Wow. Now we October is limited release and November is full release. Thank god I decided not to wait and get a 7800. ATI is really just... ah :| They're barely making it this gen.

Neither are the game developers and CPU's companys. They all seem to be coming up short.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: dug777
when is DOD: Source coming out..and Lost Coast...with HDR?

that's my guess anyway...

DoD:S is slated for September 26th release.
Lost Coast? Who knows.

 

[ronnn]

Everyone is all over the map with their guesses. Looks like it should be soon anyways.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: dug777
when is DOD: Source coming out..and Lost Coast...with HDR?

that's my guess anyway...

DoD:S is slated for September 26th release.
Lost Coast? Who knows.

i suspect that ATi will at least paper launch their cards then...why else have Valve taken this long to release these two games...

 

[BFG10K]

They're barely making it this gen.

Until we actually see the performance of the cards we don't know that for sure.

 

[g3pro]

What does Valve have to do with this?

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

They're barely making it this gen.

Until we actually see the performance of the cards we don't know that for sure.

Yes and no... If ATI comes out with a high performing card that no one can get their hands on what good does it do?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: DrZoidberg
Apparently ATi r520 or should i say x1800 is coming out on 5th october according to vr-zone.

ATI r520

"ATi will be unveiling R520 officially on October 5th but we do not expect mass production of the cards till end of Oct. So far we heard only 1K of such cards produced for customers qualifications and reviews. Yield rate for 16ps and 24ps R520 is under 25%. "

Not sure if article is 100% accurate but if yield is under 25% does that mean 75% is thrown away? ATI would be losing heaps of money if this is the case.

Translation: Mass production wont start until end of oct which means mid December before we see decent volume in the channel. And that is the best scenario.

Pretty damn pathetic if you ask me.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Translation: Mass production wont start until end of oct which means mid December before we see decent volume in the channel. And that is the best scenario.

Pretty damn pathetic if you ask me.

:thumbsup:

ATi has really blown it.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DrZoidberg
Apparently ATi r520 or should i say x1800 is coming out on 5th october according to vr-zone.

ATI r520

"ATi will be unveiling R520 officially on October 5th but we do not expect mass production of the cards till end of Oct. So far we heard only 1K of such cards produced for customers qualifications and reviews. Yield rate for 16ps and 24ps R520 is under 25%. "

Not sure if article is 100% accurate but if yield is under 25% does that mean 75% is thrown away? ATI would be losing heaps of money if this is the case.

Translation: Mass production wont start until end of oct which means mid December before we see decent volume in the channel. And that is the best scenario.

Pretty damn pathetic if you ask me.

QFT, that's almost a full 6 months behind Nvidia's full production launch, that's a lifetime in terms of videocards for equivalent tech, and that's also assuming that the X1800 is competitive with the 7800 line, which lately seems questionable. Plus if there's any truth to those yields ATI will have to jack up the price or they will be losing their shirts. This is a lose-lose situation for consumers and the industry.

Edit - Just read on TheInq that the 1800XT will be a 512mb part, interesting.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26106

Considering the source -take it or leave it.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DrZoidberg
Apparently ATi r520 or should i say x1800 is coming out on 5th october according to vr-zone.

ATI r520

"ATi will be unveiling R520 officially on October 5th but we do not expect mass production of the cards till end of Oct. So far we heard only 1K of such cards produced for customers qualifications and reviews. Yield rate for 16ps and 24ps R520 is under 25%. "

Not sure if article is 100% accurate but if yield is under 25% does that mean 75% is thrown away? ATI would be losing heaps of money if this is the case.

Translation: Mass production wont start until end of oct which means mid December before we see decent volume in the channel. And that is the best scenario.

Pretty damn pathetic if you ask me.

QFT, that's almost a full 6 months behind Nvidia's full production launch, that's a lifetime in terms of videocards for equivalent tech, and that's also assuming that the X1800 is competitive with the 7800 line, which lately seems questionable. Plus if there's any truth to those yields ATI will have to jack up the price or they will be losing their shirts. This is a lose-lose situation for consumers and the industry.

Edit - Just read on TheInq that the 1800XL will be a 512mb part, interesting.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26106

Considering the source -take it or leave it.

read it again...The Radeon X1800 XL will be more affordable 256 MB card but less memory means a lower price, of course

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DrZoidberg
Apparently ATi r520 or should i say x1800 is coming out on 5th october according to vr-zone.

ATI r520

"ATi will be unveiling R520 officially on October 5th but we do not expect mass production of the cards till end of Oct. So far we heard only 1K of such cards produced for customers qualifications and reviews. Yield rate for 16ps and 24ps R520 is under 25%. "

Not sure if article is 100% accurate but if yield is under 25% does that mean 75% is thrown away? ATI would be losing heaps of money if this is the case.

Translation: Mass production wont start until end of oct which means mid December before we see decent volume in the channel. And that is the best scenario.

Pretty damn pathetic if you ask me.

QFT, that's almost a full 6 months behind Nvidia's full production launch, that's a lifetime in terms of videocards for equivalent tech, and that's also assuming that the X1800 is competitive with the 7800 line, which lately seems questionable. Plus if there's any truth to those yields ATI will have to jack up the price or they will be losing their shirts. This is a lose-lose situation for consumers and the industry.

Edit - Just read on TheInq that the 1800XL will be a 512mb part, interesting.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26106

Considering the source -take it or leave it.

read it again...The Radeon X1800 XL will be more affordable 256 MB card but less memory means a lower price, of course

That was a typo I meant XT, doh! Fixed

 

[Budarow]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DrZoidberg
Apparently ATi r520 or should i say x1800 is coming out on 5th october according to vr-zone.

ATI r520

"ATi will be unveiling R520 officially on October 5th but we do not expect mass production of the cards till end of Oct. So far we heard only 1K of such cards produced for customers qualifications and reviews. Yield rate for 16ps and 24ps R520 is under 25%. "

Not sure if article is 100% accurate but if yield is under 25% does that mean 75% is thrown away? ATI would be losing heaps of money if this is the case.

Translation: Mass production wont start until end of oct which means mid December before we see decent volume in the channel. And that is the best scenario.

Pretty damn pathetic if you ask me.

QFT, that's almost a full 6 months behind Nvidia's full production launch, that's a lifetime in terms of videocards for equivalent tech, and that's also assuming that the X1800 is competitive with the 7800 line, which lately seems questionable. Plus if there's any truth to those yields ATI will have to jack up the price or they will be losing their shirts. This is a lose-lose situation for consumers and the industry.

Edit - Just read on TheInq that the 1800XL will be a 512mb part, interesting.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26106

Considering the source -take it or leave it.

read it again...The Radeon X1800 XL will be more affordable 256 MB card but less memory means a lower price, of course

If the X1800XL has 16 pipes and 256mb of RAM...it BETTER be priced at $299 MSRP (or less) or VERY fews peeps will buy it since a 7800 GT goes for ~$360-$380 (and this price will likely drop ~$30-$50 once ATI releases their new cards) and will most likely outperform a X1800XL with 16 pipe/256MB RAM.

Suspecting ATI's financial situation at the moment...I'm guess a X1800XL with the above specs will MSRP for $399.00. Actually, I expect ATI to "overprice" their entire next line in an attempt to make up for lost time. I also expect them to do poorly from a financial perspective due to overpricing issues.

Only time will tell.

 

[Snakexor]

would the 256 xl and the 512 xt use the same 1.26ns memory??

 

[Soccerman06]

Originally posted by: Snakexor
would the 256 xl and the 512 xt use the same 1.26ns memory??

from what I have read, yes.

"Volume availability appears to mainly refer to the RV515 and RV530 graphics processors, which will cover the entry-level and the mid-range segment of the new product generation. Users waiting for the flagship R520 will have to wait "three to four weeks" after launch to get a graphics card with ATI's fastest new graphics chip into their hands. However, production yields apparently are much better than ATI originally had expected, sources indicated - which should enable a quick ramp of the chip." here

That basically means the R520 will come a month later than whenever the low-end versions come out. This is a better move than Nvidia's because the mass market is where the money is at, not the high end which pritty much everyone here seems to use. Im guessing Nvidia is either 1. having trouble with the low-end or 2. they are waiting for ATIs version to come out for some reason or 3. they just dont perform well enough or give any performance advantage over the current cards.

But hell, this is all speculation at this point. No one here knows anything about the yeild % and you cant go on what the internet says because its often wrong, I meen look at the inquier.

 

[apoppin]

and the "source" of this info?

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=469400&extra=page%3D1

:roll:

 

[malG]

Originally posted by: Soccerman06

That basically means the R520 will come a month later than whenever the low-end versions come out. This is a better move than Nvidia's because the mass market is where the money is at, not the high end which pritty much everyone here seems to use. Im guessing Nvidia is either 1. having trouble with the low-end or 2. they are waiting for ATIs version to come out for some reason or 3. they just dont perform well enough or give any performance advantage over the current cards.

On the contrary, ATI shows dramatic market share gains in Q2'05 but still LOST money. Obviously they were selling their low end chips at a lost to gain market share. In contrast, NVIDIA's sales and market share declined but they made $75 million (net income) this past quarter :shocked:

"ATI widened its lead over NVIDIA in the desktop segment as compared to the prior quarter. In Q2'05, ATI's desktop graphics shipments grew 6.2% sequentially while NVIDIA?s desktop shipments fell 7.5%. ATI's gains on the desktop side came entirely from its line of integrated graphics devices, shipments of which increased more than three-fold during the period. On the discrete side, ATI's segment share remained essentially flat at 55.4% while NVIDIA?s segment share fell from 46.8% to 46.1% during the period."

Source: http://www10.dcccafe.com/nbc/articles/v....php?section=CorpNews&articleid=196302

ATI last quarterly: http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/ir/2005/atiq305.pdf

NVIDIA last quarterly: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=116466&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=742570

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Originally posted by: BFG10K

They're barely making it this gen.

Until we actually see the performance of the cards we don't know that for sure.

Yes and no... If ATI comes out with a high performing card that no one can get their hands on what good does it do?

Yeah, it all depends for the most part. But I do agree with BFG, that we need to wait and see. I am hoping for a great card from ATI. Because if ATI does not deliver, that just gives nVidia time to slack off and price gouge, which they have done in the past.

 

[ddogg]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Originally posted by: BFG10K

They're barely making it this gen.

Until we actually see the performance of the cards we don't know that for sure.

Yes and no... If ATI comes out with a high performing card that no one can get their hands on what good does it do?

Yeah, it all depends for the most part. But I do agree with BFG, that we need to wait and see. I am hoping for a great card from ATI. Because if ATI does not deliver, that just gives nVidia time to slack off and price gouge, which they have done in the past.

yup we can just hope its atleast competitive otherwise we're going to see alot of price gouging.