ATI Preps New Dual-Chip Flagship Graphics Card - Rumours.

[Skurge]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/...Dual_Chip_Flagship_Graphics_Card_Rumours.html

They aren't letting up are they?

 

[CitanUzuki]

Yeah, and fudzilla's report on SI seems to make a point of saying that ati's next gen will be a SLIGHT increase over the current one.

 

[cbn]

I thought the part about supporting ultra high definition decode was interesting.

Then I read about the timeline involved.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/monito..._Due_in_2017_2022_Timeframe_Say_Analysts.html

 

[Skurge]

I thought the part about supporting ultra high definition decode was interesting.

Then I read about the timeline involved.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/monito..._Due_in_2017_2022_Timeframe_Say_Analysts.html

Well, we'll have monitors at that resolution much sooner I'm guessing.

 

[busydude]

Then I read about the timeline involved. http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/monitor..._Analysts.html

LOL.

But, we are already seeing that kind of resolutions using eyefinity. Imagine watching a Blu-ray movie, upconverted using a 6xxx series card, on a 6-30" screen eyefnity setup.

 

[Skurge]

Well they say it will have an updated version of eyefinity. Any ideas on what the improvements might be?

Maybe dropping the need for DP.

 

[badb0y]

For some reason after reading this I immediately thought of Clash of the Titans when Zeus is like "Release the KRAKEN!!11!"

OT: I didn't think they were releasing high-end S.I. parts this year. If this rumor turns out to be true I am sure it is a reaction to GTX 460 raping face, especially in SLI.

 

[netxzero64]

^ high end S.I. cards will be seen next year right? plus it will be on a 28nm fab process... and maybe its not just a simply tweaked 5 series cards...

 

[Will Robinson]

The 28nm process won't be featured in the SI series of cards but is scheduled to be used for the fully next gen architecture known as Northern Islands which is unlikely to debut until the end of 2011.

 

[Bateluer]

LOL.

But, we are already seeing that kind of resolutions using eyefinity. Imagine watching a Blu-ray movie, upconverted using a 6xxx series card, on a 6-30" screen eyefnity setup.

The bezels would piss me off too much.

 

[happy medium]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/...Dual_Chip_Flagship_Graphics_Card_Rumours.html

They aren't letting up are they?

I was going to post his acrticle, but It basicly says what we all know.
S.I. will be a little faster and a new dual chip S.I. will be of coarse be, a little faster.

It good to hear some ATI news though

 

[Acanthus]

Just to clear things up a little, the 28nm cards from nvidia and ati should be a lot faster, even if they dont do much architecturally to the cards.

45nm to 28nm is a huge leap in transistor density.

If they keep the chips the same relative size to current chips and just cram twice as many shaders in there and clock it up a bit, they'll still stomp everything out today, including the dual-chip cards.

 

[Madcatatlas]

They are at 40nm now, not 45.
I do agree, we will probably see something like 30-45% increase in performance across the board.

 

[Skurge]

I was going to post his acrticle, but It basicly says what we all know.
S.I. will be a little faster and a new dual chip S.I. will be of coarse be, a little faster.

It good to hear some ATI news though

Funny that you didn't.

Anyway, we all assumed (including you) the high end would appear in 2011. So this is news to me.

Im guessing they are going to improve crossfire scaling (They have to or there isn't much point) plus the performance improvements they are going to get with the new core. I'm predicting is going to be a fair bit faster than a 5970.

 

[Skurge]

Just to clear things up a little, the 28nm cards from nvidia and ati should be a lot faster, even if they dont do much architecturally to the cards.

45nm to 28nm is a huge leap in transistor density.

If they keep the chips the same relative size to current chips and just cram twice as many shaders in there and clock it up a bit, they'll still stomp everything out today, including the dual-chip cards.

Yeah, just like 2900XT at 80nm to 4870 at 55nm

 

[Idontcare]

Yeah, just like 2900XT at 80nm to 4870 at 55nm

with the added bonus that 28nm will have HKMG so while the xtor density doesn't necessarily scale-up more than expected for a node shrink you will get to see more Idrive and lower IDDQ/Ioff (potentially faster clockspeeds and less power-consumption than a node transition would ordinarily deliver).

 

[RussianSensation]

Funny that you didn't.

Anyway, we all assumed (including you) the high end would appear in 2011. So this is news to me.

ATI has announced several times in 2010 that they plan to keep the performance crown for most of 2010. This means it has been known for a while that a high end SI varient was going to be released. I think you meant we didnt know if a dual-chip high end would appear until 2011. In that case I agree.

I hope SI is 20% or more faster than 5870 though. The faster the performance increase over current gen, the better it is both for prices of current tech and for upgrade prospects down the line ^_^

 

[happy medium]

I hope SI is 20% or more faster than 5870 though. The faster the performance increase over current gen, the better it is both for prices of current tech and for upgrade prospects down the line

It better be faster then that to beat a gtx480.

 

[happy medium]

Funny that you didn't.

Anyway, we all assumed (including you) the high end would appear in 2011. So this is news to me.

The article states..........

As reported previously, ATI Radeon HD 6000-series graphics boards will become available in late October or early November, 2010

I'd be willing to bet thats gonna be a mid range card.
It does not say high end , it does not say dual chip.

Previous news on this subject has been mid range first, high end should be by the end of the year.

 

[Grooveriding]

ATI has announced several times in 2010 that they plan to keep the performance crown for most of 2010. This means it has been known for a while that a high end SI varient was going to be released. I think you meant we didnt know if a dual-chip high end would appear until 2011. In that case I agree.

I hope SI is 20% or more faster than 5870 though. The faster the performance increase over current gen, the better it is both for prices of current tech and for upgrade prospects down the line ^_^

If it is being released as the next gen, and gets the 6XXX namesake, it's a safe bet it will be a decent performance boost.

We likely will not see 180% like we did with 5870 from 4870, but you can expect to get 150%

They don't need to offer too much more power, just enough. Nvidia has nothing new on the horizon beyond refreshes, they won't be able to compete with it until they can muster up a next gen part.

 

[Wag]

Since Crossfire scales so poorly I'm still interested in seeing how a dual-GF104 based card compares to a dual Southern Islands. Wonder what's taking Nvidia so long? The market is primed for a dual-GF104 card right now.

 

[Skurge]

Since Crossfire scales so poorly I'm still interested in seeing how a dual-GF104 based card compares to a dual Southern Islands. Wonder what's taking Nvidia so long? The market is primed for a dual-GF104 card right now.

Would there be a point if 2 months later there will be a faster card out. not to mention, they would have trouble getting it under 300W. It would be wasted RnD IMO

 

[tweakboy]

How much faster is this new dual chip card then the 5970. We need numbers, but since the 5970 costs 700 bones no one has it to review

I have not seen a single member yet with a 5970 in their sig rig. Might as well spend big money and buy the next gen top model and tell yourself you will not upgrade for 4 years...

that 600 or 700 u spend will take u to 2014 easy.......

Im just shocked how nVidia got powned by AMD or ATI lol, Not only do they not have a dual gpu for the current gen 4xx ATI has had the 5970 dual gpu out for over a year. More then a year later all nvidia could do as far as single pcb card is the 480... compare AMD latest to nVidia latest. Im tired of these reviews without the 5970 in there. Its like their scared to put it up its soo fast. Compare the nvidia latest 480 GTX to a ATI latest 5970.. then we see whos daddy,, no SLI no xfire just mano e mano ...

 

[Wreckage]

Yeah, and fudzilla's report on SI seems to make a point of saying that ati's next gen will be a SLIGHT increase over the current one.

Yeah until they get out a new architecture they are going to struggle to keep up with NVIDIA.

 

[Wag]

Would there be a point if 2 months later there will be a faster card out. not to mention, they would have trouble getting it under 300W. It would be wasted RnD IMO

So you're saying Nvidia won't come out with a new card because ATI is going to come out with a faster one in the future? I don't think the market works that way...