ATI oks OC for x1800XT
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Sheesh. So what?
3% on the memory, 4% on the core? What do they think that will get? 1fps?
Seems like a non-event to me.
why aren't you banned yet?
seriously your anti-ATI tripe is getting old and you degenerate every thread into a stupid flame war with your comments.
seriously your anti-ATI tripe is getting old and you degenerate every thread into a stupid flame war with your comments.
Not enough of a boost to mean anything. For a second I thought the news was that ATI was sanctioning overclocking for the X1800XT cards 
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I still think that once Arctic Cooling develops a new Silencer for the X1800XT, it will get a bit more of an o/c, and will become a more attractive card since noise levels will go down. Plus some companies will probably sell a Silencer-equipped card, just like the last generation.
I'm biting my tongue hard. I've put out post after post of objective thought on his posts, but the mods don't seem to care and give him carte blanche to post instigation in every thread. He's not the only high-post count troll we have, though, so it's not fair to blame him for all of the problems in Video. Most, perhaps .
.I still think that once Arctic Cooling develops a new Silencer for the X1800XT, it will get a bit more of an o/c, and will become a more attractive card since noise levels will go down. Plus some companies will probably sell a Silencer-equipped card, just like the last generation.
I'm biting my tongue hard. I've put out post after post of objective thought on his posts, but the mods don't seem to care and give him carte blanche to post instigation in every thread. He's not the only high-post count troll we have, though, so it's not fair to blame him for all of the problems in Video. Most, perhaps
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Probably because giving your opinion of video card news isn't a bannable offense in the video card forum, it's mostly what goes on here?
I'm reading the link to say that ATI is authorizing partners to overclock the XT slightly considering all the headrooms it has been shown to have, I don't think they would create a whole new card for such a small bump in clockspeeds.
THAT makes a LOT more sense than a PE edition for this, and as such, I would have treated that as only good news. Always better to get more for your money, I was giving my opinion of calling this a PE edition like the OP said.
this is no different than the "special edition" 7800 GTX's that were put out by EVGA and other manufacturers. giving it a new product name would be stupid.
Actually it is- it's nowhere near as good.
430>490 core 14% core increase
1200>1300 RAM 8% RAM increase
On EVGA KO, Leadtek MyVIVO, Asus TOP, and XFX.
Like I said though, more is always good, so it's nice of ATI to try.
Zenoth
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Such as small over-clock isn't worth of being sold at that.
Owners of the X1800 XT already confirmed it's possible to get at 680+ / 820+ (or 1640+ effective) on reference stock-air cooling, default voltage, stable, no artifacts.
What's the goal to "officialize" and "agree for" a 4% and 3% over-clock on the Core and Memory, respectivaly ...
Then why not ship them at what they can really be at without troubles ? Such as 8%+ / 9%+ ...
That's nonsense, or is simply useless from ATi to have to do anything related to that.
I mean any consumer buying the reference "BBATi" model can do better than 650 / 775 by themselves.
No actually "needs" of other, more expensive R520 models for something you can do yourself.
Owners of the X1800 XT already confirmed it's possible to get at 680+ / 820+ (or 1640+ effective) on reference stock-air cooling, default voltage, stable, no artifacts.
What's the goal to "officialize" and "agree for" a 4% and 3% over-clock on the Core and Memory, respectivaly ...
Then why not ship them at what they can really be at without troubles ? Such as 8%+ / 9%+ ...
That's nonsense, or is simply useless from ATi to have to do anything related to that.
I mean any consumer buying the reference "BBATi" model can do better than 650 / 775 by themselves.
No actually "needs" of other, more expensive R520 models for something you can do yourself.
I think the biggest point to make is that the yields of R520 are good, even better than expected That means availability should be good soon.
I bet the card makers are screaming for this sort of stuff. They are all selling the same card, so anything to give them an edge over the other guy is good for them.
I bet the card makers are screaming for this sort of stuff. They are all selling the same card, so anything to give them an edge over the other guy is good for them.
Originally posted by: Rollo
Why is that MORPH? You think the 3% speed bump is going to put the XT over the top?
This is only a hint of what's to come. There's plenty of headroon on the R520 chips and I'm sure we will see cards clocked even higher in the near future.
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5150Joker
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Originally posted by: M0RPH
Originally posted by: Rollo
Why is that MORPH? You think the 3% speed bump is going to put the XT over the top?
This is only a hint of what's to come. There's plenty of headroon on the R520 chips and I'm sure we will see cards clocked even higher in the near future.
I don't even think an XT at 700/1700 could beat a stock clocked 512 MB GTX. Loses in fillrate and would be about equal in bandwidth. It would probably maintain parity at best but not beat it out. Plus there's the problem of being available in quanitity and ATi AIBs don't seem to have the quality or services available that nVidia AIBs do. ATi should just forget about winning the high end this round and concentrate on flooding the market with midrange and low end parts and then just focus on rushing the R580 to market.
I think a 700/1700 XT would be a winner. The new XFX GTX card only beats the XT's 3Dmark score by 500 points. And I believe that XFX card is going to be about the highest clocked GTX variant you will see.
5150Joker
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Since when is 3dmark05 a measure of how well a card performs in actual games? Not to mention 700/1700 XT is just a fanboys wetdream at this point.
It serves as a rough indicator of actual performance until we can see some actual benchmarks. I predict that the new XFX card won't beat the XT by much more than 10% in most cases.
Look at this article
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q4/geforce-6800gs/index.x?pg=4
The XT beats the GTX in every game at 16x12 AA+AF, except HL2 (how ironic), but even then it's almost a tie. If you look at some newest games like FEAR, BF2, Seious Sam 2, it beats the gtx by a large margin. You would need a 550mhz gtx just to tie it in those games, but it wont hold a candle to a 700mhz XT in those particular games. I'm surprised how much of an increase in performance the XT got with improved drivers, and you might be even more surprised at how it performs in future games with more complex shaders, and possibly even better drivers.
With regard to the topic, it's nice to get higher clocked XT's if they dont jack up the prices. The rumored clock increase are nothing spectacular, but any half-competent enthusiast would be able to OC it significantly higher, seeing how these cards seem to have some decent OC headroom.
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q4/geforce-6800gs/index.x?pg=4
The XT beats the GTX in every game at 16x12 AA+AF, except HL2 (how ironic), but even then it's almost a tie. If you look at some newest games like FEAR, BF2, Seious Sam 2, it beats the gtx by a large margin. You would need a 550mhz gtx just to tie it in those games, but it wont hold a candle to a 700mhz XT in those particular games. I'm surprised how much of an increase in performance the XT got with improved drivers, and you might be even more surprised at how it performs in future games with more complex shaders, and possibly even better drivers.
With regard to the topic, it's nice to get higher clocked XT's if they dont jack up the prices. The rumored clock increase are nothing spectacular, but any half-competent enthusiast would be able to OC it significantly higher, seeing how these cards seem to have some decent OC headroom.
Reading the Sapphire guys comments, he just said "significantly increased frequencies and performance" so dont get your panties in a bunch yet.
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