ATI/NVIDIA Easy Product Chart

XT2k

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As i see many of people are confused due to ATI's latest launch for the X850 and 110nm X800 series of vgas, so here is a revised list for reference regarding the video cards options and how they stand against each other HERE.

this is a breif chart that shows the options for each price point, the compititors and the best card for that segment.
although many would definitly comment on ATI's hardware availability, i guess that there were some problems in producing the 130nm X800s (guess yield related) so my guess is that the X850 series is here to replace with better yielding not to refresh, so X850s availability will be much better than the 130nm X800s, (remember the AMD t-bred rev.A vs rev.B), as for the 110nm X800s they simply rock! esp. the X800XL which is the best card for the buck (when released for mass production).
But we all know that Nvidia's Sales & Marketing staff are several light years ahead of Ati's so i guess next year will see NV regaining much of their lost grounds as NV fans will regain trust back in their company. So unless Ati does have a ground-breaker with their R520 and alot of winners in the magic $300-$200 segment with reasonable AVAILABILITY, coupled with their own SLI they will certainly lose, as we already know that many users have switched (back?) to NV coz the ATI's failure in resolving their availability problems.

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OnEMoReTrY

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Man I'm sick of your biassed posts, keep them in one thread please. First off nvidia screwed over it's customers by promising the video processor worked, which it didn't. Secondly you fail to see that SLI is probably less then a one thousandth of a percent of total sales, and that the 6800 ultra had just as much problem with yields as the x800 xt pe had, and it was announced earlier. And how is NV's marketing staff better? Last I checked ATI had much more of a market share then nvidia.
 

XT2k

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Originally posted by: OnEMoReTrY
Man I'm sick of your biassed posts, keep them in one thread please. First off nvidia screwed over it's customers by promising the video processor worked, which it didn't. Secondly you fail to see that SLI is probably less then a one thousandth of a percent of total sales, and that the 6800 ultra had just as much problem with yields as the x800 xt pe had, and it was announced earlier. And how is NV's marketing staff better? Last I checked ATI had much more of a market share then nvidia.


and i am sick of replying to your sick posts :p HERE
 

Pete

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nVidia's Sales and Marketing staff are the reason some people, like me, dislike them. Their hardware, other than the FX series, has been great. nV will regain people's trust due to better hardware (the GF6 series), not "better" marketing. ATi gained a lot of good rep with the 9700-9800 series partially because their hardware did the talking for them, meaning they could use their marketers less.

It's a little hard to discuss availability, as ATi seems to have snagged more OEM deals than nVidia this round. So more of their cards may have been shunted to the Dells of the world, rather than to retail shelves for aftermarket purchase.

No question that their $200-300 offerings have been weak compared to first the 6800 and now the 6600GT. They need to get the X800XL out the door, quick. AND move it to AGP. :)
 

XT2k

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Originally posted by: Pete
nVidia's Sales and Marketing staff are the reason some people, like me, dislike them. Their hardware, other than the FX series, has been great. nV will regain people's trust due to better hardware (the GF6 series), not "better" marketing. ATi gained a lot of good rep with the 9700-9800 series partially because their hardware did the talking for them, meaning they could use their marketers less.

It's a little hard to discuss availability, as ATi seems to have snagged more OEM deals than nVidia this round. So more of their cards may have been shunted to the Dells of the world, rather than to retail shelves for aftermarket purchase.

No question that their $200-300 offerings have been weak compared to first the 6800 and now the 6600GT. They need to get the X800XL out the door, quick. AND move it to AGP. :)


man this is what i am talking about all this time, still there's no argue that NV's S&M are better, they wouldn't affect the decision of people who know like yourself, but this would affect people who do not know. and yes the R300 did much for ATI that's why they are here now coz GFFX simply sucks, as for Dell's thingy we all know that dell were always the OEM who takes major quantities of ATI's hardware, nothing new. but both camps did horrible this time that's for sure.

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302efi

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Originally posted by: XT2k
Originally posted by: 302efi
Why did you not list the 6800 Ultra Extreme Edition ??

coz i have never heard they are on shelves :D

XT


Well I just got one :D

In that case, why list ANY ATI card ???
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XT2k

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Originally posted by: OnEMoReTrY
Man I'm sick of your biassed posts, keep them in one thread please. First off nvidia screwed over it's customers by promising the video processor worked, which it didn't. Secondly you fail to see that SLI is probably less then a one thousandth of a percent of total sales, and that the 6800 ultra had just as much problem with yields as the x800 xt pe had, and it was announced earlier. And how is NV's marketing staff better? Last I checked ATI had much more of a market share then nvidia.


check HERE and hopefully you get well out of your sickness, and discover i am an ATI zealot and what iam asking is for ATI's (and our) best :p

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Pete

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Ah, you mean nVidia's demos? Yeah, Dawn > a monkey in a field, and the mermaid was good, too. I thought Animusic was fantastic, though. ATi should be demoing that still, IMO.
 

Gamingphreek

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Why do you losers have to try to make him appear biased. I dont think you are in any position to post sh!t like that until you try to post a guide and help us out. Maybe you should weigh your words more carefully and stop being a troll.

As for the guide, i think its excellent. However the X850Pro is the same as the X850XT as it is listed where, in reality, it is not. I assume youll update when Nvidia has released their "fall" refresh.

-Kevin
 

XT2k

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Why do you losers have to try to make him appear biased. I dont think you are in any position to post sh!t like that until you try to post a guide and help us out. Maybe you should weigh your words more carefully and stop being a troll.

As for the guide, i think its excellent. However the X850Pro is the same as the X850XT as it is listed where, in reality, it is not. I assume youll update when Nvidia has released their "fall" refresh.

-Kevin

if they (NV) did release the "fall" refresh.
and yes i am biased... towards ATI, but still i am a customer and won't get a penny of their profits so i buy what's best, so if nvidia were on top i would buy NV stuff and if ATI is then i would go ATI. got it? :D

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XT2k

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great chart of course, but there's no price point comparison which is the big purpose for my chart...

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