Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: apoppin
we need their *driver team* to address this issue with Crossfire X
I would be happy to test a B3 Phenom and XfireX for them and to be their rep here on this forum.
we need NVIDIA's driver team to address their OWN multitude of issues
A more recent review showed 8XAA running fine, so I think it's just your multitude of issues that needs to be addressed.
You a rep for AMD?
- OK .. i will back
slowly away as no further comment is needed
AS to "8xMSAA running fine" on GX2 ... let's IGNORE that for a moment ..
Would you like to see
a very long list of threads - that you evidently missed over the many months as we shifted
away from NVIDIA on this forum - that *detail* real issues with NVIDIA drivers?
What I see a lot of on the forums is when fans of one brand can't say "The brand I'm a fan of has higher image quality/ greater speed" they resort to things like pointing out anecdotal evidence of driver deficiencies (both real and perceived), differences in warranties/customer service, percieved differences in company ethics, differences in power use/noise,price, difference in check box features, and (laughably) differences in the physical appearances of the cards.
Whichever one of these items has a possible edge for the card of choice is hyped as the "deal breaker factor" and all other items discounted in an illogical, and inexplicable attempt to defame the "enemy's" product and bolster perception of the beloved product.
I've been talking about video cards on forums since Voodoo 2 days, and you can bet the rent on the above.
Your favorite is losing the performance battle? Well, the winner costs too much. (as if the best performing parts ever wouldn't)
Your favorite is losing the performance battle? Well, the winner doesn't have DX10.1! (nor do any games, but that's a minor detail)
Your favorite is losing the performance battle? Well, I saw a review on a East German website where 8X AA had a big performance hit on a couple games! Good lord, we all need 8XAA!
Your favorite is losing the performance battle? Well, the winner looks "funny" to me, not "elegant" like the loser. As if it matters what video cards look like- they're sideways in the case so even if you have a windowed PC, and even if it isn't under your desk or next to it obscuring the view, you're likely looking at the top of it anyway. Personally, I'd plug a big hairy spider into my PCIE slot if it was 20% faster than anything else and had comparable IQ.
Your favorite is losing the performance battle? Well, the winner uses 30W more electricity per hour, and over the course of 20 years of gaming, that might add up to $20! We're not made of money you know.
At the end of the day, for buyers right now, only two things matter:
For dual GPU cards, NVIDIA offers a product that faster than two of ATis best dual GPUs combined, and offers comparable (if not better) IQ.
For single GPU cards, NVIDIA has no competition either.
We can talk about how cards "look", 3db differences in sound, transient driver issues, etc until our fingers bleed and our minds reel, but at the end of the day ATi needs to step up to the plate and improve their products because the only way they're able to compete now is lowballing price, and that is not good for a company that has a cruching debt load and is already losing money. I personally hope they'll do better with R700, the R600 was a disappointment for enthusiasts.
<steps off soapbox>
Note: This post is not directed at you Apoppin, nor any person in particular. It's only meant to be my commentary on debates such as the one in this thread.