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ATi goes SLI

ATI will have a "Pentium 4" version of its SLI so it won't be for the AMD club alone. Nor will it need a small "daughter board" to connect the two cards, it appears.

And so will VIA, a full 7 months earlier.
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
THe Inquirer is full of it. ATI already said they would not implement something like this.

-Kevin
Ati is full of it.

OF COURSE they WILL implement "SLI" 😛
:roll:

they HAVE to
(told you so) 😛

😀

 
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
THe Inquirer is full of it. ATI already said they would not implement something like this.

-Kevin
Ati is full of it.

OF COURSE they WILL implement "SLI" 😛
:roll:

they HAVE to
(told you so) 😛

😀
Yes, where is the "SLI will be only for a very small niche market" crowd? I believe they simply did not understand our side of the debate. SLI by any other name is still going to be a form of concurrent processing. With the die shrinks, increased number of transitors, ramping of clockspeeds, and expensive cooling required already, it seems only logical to adopt a similar strategy to AMD&Intel, and go with multiprocessing designs, atleast until packaging materials and tech get over the current hurdles.

Besides, you market it to a crowd that isn't disuaded by cost i.e. the workstation market, and the other markets it will sell in are just ancillary benefits. Then take into account that holding the performance crown has a very real impact on the company's bottom line, and there is a compelling argument for adopting the technology.

Yes, I have heard the counter-arguments but it looks like none of the big players are listening any more than I am 😉
 
Originally posted by: Acanthus
ATI will have a "Pentium 4" version of its SLI so it won't be for the AMD club alone. Nor will it need a small "daughter board" to connect the two cards, it appears.

And so will VIA, a full 7 months earlier.
Anyone hear anything about an Intel chipset that supports SLI? Tumwater already sort of supports it - PCIe x16/x4 as oppsosed to PCIe x8/x8. Plus it is a Xeon chipset, but they already have the technology...
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
THe Inquirer is full of it. ATI already said they would not implement something like this.

-Kevin
Ati is full of it.

OF COURSE they WILL implement "SLI" 😛
:roll:

they HAVE to
(told you so) 😛

😀
Yes, where is the "SLI will be only for a very small niche market" crowd? I believe they simply did not understand our side of the debate. SLI by any other name is still going to be a form of concurrent processing. With the die shrinks, increased number of transitors, ramping of clockspeeds, and expensive cooling required already, it seems only logical to adopt a similar strategy to AMD&Intel, and go with multiprocessing designs, atleast until packaging materials and tech get over the current hurdles.

Besides, you market it to a crowd that isn't disuaded by cost i.e. the workstation market, and the other markets it will sell in are just ancillary benefits. Then take into account that holding the performance crown has a very real impact on the company's bottom line, and there is a compelling argument for adopting the technology.

Yes, I have heard the counter-arguments but it looks like none of the big players are listening any more than I am 😉

They almost shut-up with the last sli thread. They have zero comphension of market-pressures (and/or are simply "fanboys"). i think we can (completely) disregard their comments - now. 😛
:roll:
 
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Interviewer: So what do you think of Nvidia's SLI solution?
ATI Marketing Director: Well, we think it is premature and very expensive to implement, so people won't go there. Oh, by the way, here's our "SLI" version that we have in production."

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guys, I much prefer NV over ATI, not a blinded fanboy, but I gotta call this one like I see it.
 
I still say that SLI will only be for a small niche market, because it will be. I don't know many people that can drop 800 to 1200 USD on graphics cards. I can build a pretty nice system for that price.
 
In the interview he said Multi-GPU on the chipset side....

That doesnt mean 2 cards bolted together like SLI does it now
 
Another vote that SLI remains in a niche market.

The thinking by most is that they'll buy one card now and another card later. I think that by the time "later" arrives, your 2 old cards won't be as fast as one new one, or maybe only slightly faster. At that time, the big spenders will have 2 of the newest cards in SLI anyway, and will still be blowing your doors off. That seems like an unwinnable race to me if you are on a budget. You'll never catch up.

SLI only makes sense to me if you've got the dough to buy the 2 cards at about the same time and get the benefit for the whole time you have the cards, and most people won't want to do that.

The big spenders will always pay for the latest and fastest, and the latest is always a niche market.

It's likely we'll have a lot more boards that support SLI than we have users of the capability.

I could certainly be wrong, though. 😀
 
Originally posted by: Drayvn
In the interview he said Multi-GPU on the chipset side....

That doesnt mean 2 cards bolted together like SLI does it now

Aye, ATI toyed with what they called Alternate Frame Rendering or AFR with their Rage Fury MAXX cards.
 
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
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Interviewer: So what do you think of Nvidia's SLI solution?
ATI Marketing Director: Well, we think it is premature and very expensive to implement, so people won't go there. Oh, by the way, here's our "SLI" version that we have in production."

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guys, I much prefer NV over ATI, not a blinded fanboy, but I gotta call this one like I see it.

So what were you expecting ATI to say? "We think SLI is great and it's a shame that our products don't have it," perhaps? Of course he's going to talk out of his @ss; SLI blindsighted ATI this generation.

OMG let's all boycott a company because they are hypocrites; they downplay one of their competitor's features until they implement it themselves. Because that has never been done before in the past of free market competitive companies; certainly not by the likes of Intel ("64-bit is unnecessary") or any other company.

Jeez.

Yes, apparently SLI is going to take off (I *still* don't see it's current value in this generation except in the ultra-high end for running dual 6800GT's or 6800Ultra's; dual 6600GT's are disappointingly slower than a single 6800GT).

However, I can see it definately being useful down the road (and dual 6800GT's would kick butt. I'd fancy building two computers for people and then stalling them for a couple weeks ... "uh, your 6800GT isn't here yet 😉 ). But Keys et al, do you have to cram this down everyone's throats everytime ATI renegs on one of their PR comments?
 
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: Drayvn
In the interview he said Multi-GPU on the chipset side....

That doesnt mean 2 cards bolted together like SLI does it now

Aye, ATI toyed with what they called Alternate Frame Rendering or AFR with their Rage Fury MAXX cards.

This actually disappoints me in some ways. The MAXX was one of my favorite cards, I'd love to own another. This is just ATI stealing nVidia's idea. (which you could say was 3dfxs, but as nVidia owns 3dfxs intellectual property now, it's really theirs these days)
 
Damn Rollo, why do you feel the need to hate on Ati? Nvidia's SLI (Scalable Link Interface) is not the same thing as 3dfx's SLI (Scan Line Interleave); what Ati's implmentation is remains to be seen so any claims of "stealing" is rather premature.
 
Originally posted by: Drayvn
In the interview he said Multi-GPU on the chipset side....

That doesnt mean 2 cards bolted together like SLI does it now

Hmm two chipsets on one card? That should be interesting.
 
3dfx had SLI
ATi and 3dfx did dual chip cards (so maybe did others...?) MAXX and V5's
Volari gets dual GPU (yes, crappy).
ATi 9700's have multi-GPU solutions made available for workstation type stuff, made by specialist companies.
nVidia announces their SLI
ATi announces something.

ATi says nVidia has an expensive solution, which eats a lot of power - correct
Premature - PCIe is only just out on the market, and we don't really need that much rendering power for most users, it IS a niche market.
It's also very expensive.
They make good points.
Intel said AMD-64 wasn't needed, and they would do something when they thought it necessary.
They have.
ATi has already got a history of multi-GPU stuff, and there is a history of 2 cards and multiple GPU's in the graphics card market, it's not really anything new. It's a step that ATi were never unlikely to take IMO.
 
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
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Interviewer: So what do you think of Nvidia's SLI solution?
ATI Marketing Director: Well, we think it is premature and very expensive to implement, so people won't go there. Oh, by the way, here's our "SLI" version that we have in production."

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guys, I much prefer NV over ATI, not a blinded fanboy, but I gotta call this one like I see it.

You're laughing over this? The guys in marketing...wtf do u think he's gonna say?
 
Originally posted by: KevinH
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
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Interviewer: So what do you think of Nvidia's SLI solution?
ATI Marketing Director: Well, we think it is premature and very expensive to implement, so people won't go there. Oh, by the way, here's our "SLI" version that we have in production."

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guys, I much prefer NV over ATI, not a blinded fanboy, but I gotta call this one like I see it.

You're laughing over this? The guys in marketing...wtf do u think he's gonna say?

So that makes it ok?

 
Actually, I'm using SLI to circumvent high-priced single-card solutions. 2 6600GTs are will do nicely, thank you, and can run with the big NV40s, too. So, from my perspective, SLI is actually a money saver.
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
it IS a niche market.
So was the Personal Computer 😉

Why jump before you have to?
Although they are getting pushed now.
If it's not a financially viable potion yet, but will be soon, why impliment it before "soon"?
 
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: KevinH
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
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Interviewer: So what do you think of Nvidia's SLI solution?
ATI Marketing Director: Well, we think it is premature and very expensive to implement, so people won't go there. Oh, by the way, here's our "SLI" version that we have in production."

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guys, I much prefer NV over ATI, not a blinded fanboy, but I gotta call this one like I see it.

You're laughing over this? The guys in marketing...wtf do u think he's gonna say?

So that makes it ok?

It makes it a non-issue.

 
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