One thing I love about them is you can do a custom install and decide on what you want to install. My question is do I really need the HDMI/DP Audio driver, CCC and ATI Drag and Drop ? I like to install just the drivers. Is there any benefits of installing all this other stuff?
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Well if you don't need those things then by all means don't install them. CCC is very useful if you want to force settings in a game or change the quality of the AA used, etc though.
pretty self explanatory, its the the driver for the ATI's onboard sound codec through displayport and hdmi, if you don't use hdmi audio you won't need it
Schmide
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Yeah but it's better to have the driver on the system, a missing/out dated driver may cause problems even if it isn't used. (sleep state, legacy mode, etc)
Edit: seriously you're talking a few KB on a GB system
Edit2: Microsoft is going to install its outdated driver anyways, so you're basically just choosing to run an outdated driver.
Edit: seriously you're talking a few KB on a GB system
Edit2: Microsoft is going to install its outdated driver anyways, so you're basically just choosing to run an outdated driver.
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What in the heck are you even talking about? The HDMI/DP Audio driver? How would it effect sleep state, legacy mode, etc ? What is legacy mode anyway ?
I never used HDMI before. Not sure about DP though.
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Devices register with the system regardless of if you use them. They have a driver and are in some sort active state as long as the system is running even if you're not throwing data at them. When the system sleeps they are sent a message to serialize their state and power down. In most cases the basic driver will work fine, it's just better to be safe than sorry. How much are you saving anyways?
It is best practice to run with the latest vendor/company drivers and not the Microsoft legacy drivers. (i.e. basic compatibility)
Edit: Sorry for not answering this. Legacy mode is a basic functional mode usually intended on providing just enough functionality to get the system running. A famous case where one device in legacy mode can slow a series of devices is with drives and PIO mode (Programmed input/output) if one device goes into this state it can effect the whole system.
It is best practice to run with the latest vendor/company drivers and not the Microsoft legacy drivers. (i.e. basic compatibility)
Edit: Sorry for not answering this. Legacy mode is a basic functional mode usually intended on providing just enough functionality to get the system running. A famous case where one device in legacy mode can slow a series of devices is with drives and PIO mode (Programmed input/output) if one device goes into this state it can effect the whole system.
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Hmmm. Tell that to everyone here who says not to install the latest motherboard chipset drivers when installing Windows Vista or 7. If it is not broke why fix it? Isn't it sorta like updating just for the heck of it ?
Schmide
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Who is this everyone? That has to be one of the stupidest statements I've ever read here. I have no idea who would put it forth. Kind of like saying; if my car still moves, I'll never need to replace any component or ever do a tuneup. Screw the noises I'll just turn up the radio.
A modern OS is usually in an evolving state, patches, functionality updates, interdependence, (OS, driver, codex, application) and so on. Ignoring any one part may effect others.
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I was talking about all drivers, but yes the HDMI/DP audio driver would be included in my statements.
The general anandtech community duh. I tried that once with installing all that nonsense stuff and it just caused more trouble than it was worth. That is why I am so careful in what I install nowadays. Sometimes it can be a pain to remove as well if it breaks something.
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Duh? Kind of an appeal to commonality? Although I'm sure there can be disagreements in the community, I highly doubt this is common practice. Step one in trouble shooting is usually, have you updated your drivers?
You can get into situations where mixing and matching newer and older drivers may causes problems. (Example: putting new raid drivers on old chipset drivers) It's probably a bad practice to selectively update some drivers while ignoring others. In my opinion keeping up on drivers tends to solve problems instead of causing them.
As much as there are some drivers that my be finicky, intel SSD drivers/firmware; when installing a suite of drivers like in this context of the ATI video card and supporting software, I think it's best to keep every part up to date.
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If you have a video card that supports HDMI audio (even via a DVI-HDMI adaptor), then install the newest driver for that functionality. To do otherwise is foolish.
Indeed, even on the older cards, a HD2600Pro AGP to be exact, Win7 installs a driver for the audio. You have to install a driver for the audio, and then disable that driver in Device Manager, otherwise it generates an interrupt storm that loads the CPU severely.
Indeed, even on the older cards, a HD2600Pro AGP to be exact, Win7 installs a driver for the audio. You have to install a driver for the audio, and then disable that driver in Device Manager, otherwise it generates an interrupt storm that loads the CPU severely.
The point is you already HAVE drivers for these devices installed, they're just the standard MS ones, so it's not about "do I install a driver?" but "which one do I use?". Also you can always roll back the drivers if there should be problems, where's the problem?
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hate to break it to you but from what i've read over the years, we tend to stay on top of newer driver rollouts unless there is known issues with them
:\ Then you did not get is across very well. Here & most tech forums will recommend to install the official driver and keep it up to date. Niow when something goes wrong like the recent nVidia fiasco you'll hear about it and we'll say not to use it or roll back.
Now keeping up to date doesn't mean install extra un-needed software. For example take a look at all the junk Creative wants to install with Sound Blaster X-FI drivers.
Honestly unless someone is gaming or doing video editing I just install the driver only and leave the software suits out of it. Windows Update will take care of the rest if it's important enough.
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Well then, I must be old school. I'm still running the 9.12's and X -fi's 7 drivers (without all the junk). It plays all my games fine and I use my HDMI for gaming or watching a movie on my HDTV. I'm into Photoshop and video editing using my rig to record video's. I say if it works don't F w/it. I haven't even checked to see if my mb has an updated bios. Why? If it works, what's the need? Now if I decided to go Quad and need and update, of course I'll do it. But in the meantime I'm hummin' right along with a 1200mhz. o/c.
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In the old days, when MoBos didn't have bios backups, there was a real risk that when you installed a new bios, it wouldn't work properly (This is back in the day of "You can only update via floppies"). If your bios fails, that's it. game over. You have to have a functioning bios to update/repair the bios (Sort of a chicken and egg thing)
However, now, most Bioses provide backups that prevent a fatal update. So it is somewhat of a non-issue. I still will only update my bios if there are CPU compatibility or stability issues. Other then that, I tend not to touch it.
As for general driver updates? Why would you avoid them?
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