ATI Drivers Named Most Stable By Independent Agency

[Gstanfor]

I deal strictly in facts. Everything I have claimed here in favor of nVidia is supported by fact.

I leave it to the ATi fanboys to bring up the FUD and the fiction, because their arguments are based on lies I have no trouble shooting them down. Of course the fanboys get a bit miffed when that happens...

Oh, and Codey47, I've got nothing further to say to you, either. Everything you have claimed has been false. First nVidia was cheating with the AMD 64 farcry patch, then you claimed nVidia deliberately mislead people with labelled screenshots, despite evidence in your own link to the contrary.

Your claim that ATi's Trylinear can be turned off is equally laughable. It can be on R300 and RV350 (9700 & 9500 series) because those VPU's never had the filtering shortcuts wired in. From the RV360 (9600) onwards the Trylinear hack is builtin to the silicon. Checkout what Dave Baumann and ATi engineers had to say on the subject in the beyond3d forums. Also read this article and I'll finish my response to you with a drect ATi quote (they wouldn't lie, now would they?)

With the RADEON X800, gamers get full trilinear, high quality Anti-Aliasing, high levels of Anisotropic Filtering, and Full Precision shaders all of the time.

Heh, just noticed the Full precision shaders bit in there too. Too bad DX9.0c was already launched...

The GeForce6 series is simply superior to anything ATi has on the market at moment, no matter which way you want to slice it. I'll admit ATi may have a very slight speed edge sometimes, but speed alone isn't the sole measure of a card, speed, features, API support, developer support, price and driver quality (including useful to the user options)combined are what make a graphics card a good buy or not.

 

[BFG10K]

If you have a GeForceFX or lower, then yes, angle adaptive AF (the one nasty hardware shortcut present in nV4x) CAN be disabled using the profiles.

I don't believe it can be disabled on the FX but it certainly can't be disabled NV40.

My claims about the nVidia profiles have always been that they allow the end user total choice about exactly how an application is to be run.

That comment is not only false but we are talking about your claims about ATi's lack of profiles, not what nVidia does or doesn't allow.

YOU decide if you want optimizations on or off for this application or not, NOT the driver team.

So how do I decide I don't want angle-dependant AF on the NV40?

How do I decide I don't want application detetecion?

I guess ATi's profile manager is more capable than nVidia's using your reasoning? The "total control" you keep going on about, or lack thereof?

You are correct that I have never used CCC, thats because I have never owned an ATi card and I am never likely to.

That certainly explains the nonsense you've been posting. Why didn't you stop after the first thread instead of continuing your clueless babble?

once again I will quote what anand said about ATi's "profiles"

Your constant quoting of this is really comical now. You plainly do not understand anything about the CCC yet you continue this nonsensical facade.

ATi's profiles simply are not as capable as nVidia's profiles

That's your opinion which has nothing at all do with your original claim. I could also claim the opposite given nVidia doesn't allow application detetction to be disabled but of course your double-standards and nV fanboyism doesn't allow this fact.

I'm simply going to go back to my original claim that ATi's profile manager allows things nVidia's doesn't and vice versa. I'm not going to claim one is better than the other because quite honestly it has nothing at all to do with the original argument. Why you keep dragging it in is beyond me.

despite your protestations to the contrary.

My protestations are against your nonsensical "ATi don't do profiles" claims. You've simply twisted the original issue and put a fanboy spin on it to try to make it look like my arguments are flawed when in reality it's you who doesn't appear to even know what you're arguing.

You are both opinionated and stupid.

Let me get this straight: you post about something you have absolutely no clue about and that makes me stupid?

Next time before arguing do some research before mouthing off garbage and stop using weak strawman arguments to constantly cloud your original feeble arguments.

You said ATi doesn't have application profiles but that's plain BULLSHIT. If you're of the opinion nVidia's profile manage is better than ATi's that's fine but that doesn't change the fact that ATi not only have profiles but also allow control of things that nVidia doesn't.

I deal strictly in facts.

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[Codey47]

i agree with everything bfg has to say coz thats all the so called ammunition Gstan has even tho ive shown him all the proof and MORE he needs but still cant comprehend the way it is
and gstan you own a midrange gfx card and trying to quote stuff to an enthusiast
further throwing doubt on your so called computer business I'm afraid your comments can't be taken with any validity

you have nothin to say to me coz you have taken your "bat and ball home" coz ive got all the proof and the farcry patch u still missing the point so its not my fault you stoopid and read the bits u wanna and you cant handle the truth and you strictly deal on facts F*****G "Bullsh!t Mr Hand Man"
and due to the fact that u knew nvidia mislead the public with labeling screenies ps2.0 instead of 1.1
and tried to pull a fast one with me and saying my "fevered imagination" saw something that was not real even though you admitted it after i pointed out that the article had to be rectified a fact you hoped i never knew was a"NVIDIA UNINTENTIONAL MISTAKE" even tho being pointed out by a well respected tech site so shut up ROY
you sir are a liar and twist everything round and dont give the FULL STORY to make ppl judge you are exactly like NVIDIA
you set out to make other ppl look stoopid even tho everything you say should be taken with a pinch of salt

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=5&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

go on lad dig yerself a 12 foot hole and hide

filterin article
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040603/ati_optimized-11.html
read it and what does it say

farcry ps 30 screenies and video dated 05-14-04, 07:49 PM
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28772

amd screenies dated may 2005
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Dev..._869_875%5e10543,00.html?redir=IEGFC01

so like i said nvidia bought time and custom by lying and not saying its a patch from ubisoft, os and cpu upgrade
so they bought themselves a year of sales by not saying what it actually was

pixelshader 3 exclusive only see on pixelshader 3 it is not
os and cpu upgrade and a patch not ps 3.0 exclusive so stfu gstan you talk a bunch of old ass fruit
ps2.0 vs ps3.0 article
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NzY3LDY=
plays better and looks the same on ATI
blowing EVERYTHING you said out of the window so kthxbye

so theres my proof
cpu and os upgrade not GPU my proof that nvidia was riding the pixel shader 3.0 horse and lying
so gstan wanna dig yerself deeper even tho u are the fool and trying to make me look foolish read,watch and weep



to be honest gstan you claim to own your own computer business but im evisioning your business as a log cabin in the middle of alaska with a lone nvidia gfx card on a shelf ...you are an amateur and should get out of the business
and your wannabe journalism techniques stink
unlike you i can backup everthing i say

again kthnxbye
Codey47
codey 2 gstan 0
if anyone is confused about the original debate and if you can be bothered(tbh dont waste yer time its just a purpose of watchin him squirm watch this goomer waffle on with himself the guy is a prize nvidiot)
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear
so gstan i wanna see you reply so i can really laugh at my monitor watching you trying to deliver your piss weak watered down gravy YET AGAIN :-]
btw ATI Drivers Named Most Stable By Independent Agency so deal with it (so yet again stop throwing your angelic tedious profile creating coz its bollocks and a pain in the ass and just goes to show nvidia aint doin their job)
and also the new issue of PLAYNVIDIA is out showing the geforce fx in a pair of sexy leet suspenders just for u to get your rocks off
and stop going into ATI threads just to kick off with everyone that owns ATI coz u makin yourself out to be a possesed kid