ATI Catalist on Vista, Low performance

[Gwalahad]

Hi there, ive been using Vista for a couple of weeks, was using it fine with no video drivers(otehr than the ones vista put on when installing) for my radeon 9800pro

but today i decided to downlaod the ATI Catalyst for Vista, and install them.

i then went through the settings, and set everything onto maximum performance.

then proceeded to play some game. so my dissapointment, i found that i had only 50-65% of the framerate i had with stock vista drivers - in all games tried.

i did notice hwoever that on things like AA and AF minium chocie is 2X, maybe vista was using 0X? and thus gaining more performance? graphics are slightly better with catalyst certainly indicating this as a possibility.

for many things i run i dont care much for aaAA and such, and woud rather take hte framerate.

anyone else had similar issue, either with Vista or even other OSs?

 

[Gwalahad]

guess not then

 

[A5]

Beta drivers + beta OS = slow

 

[Bateluer]

Catalyst not Catalist.

 

[w00t]

I think that it's because you set them to max performance you probably turned of details, AA, AF, etc which caused your framerates to drop. Vista isn't really that good for gaming anyways if you've seen the benchmarks at least at this point and time. I don't see what the big hype about Vista doesn't seem better to me just seems like they basically stole a couple ideas from mac os x and called it Vista ( spotlight, gadgets, etc )

the thing I like about apple is when they make an os they try to make it work with older machines Microsoft makes a new os and they expect you to buy a new computer. Sorry, I don't mean to start a flameware just expressing my opinions. I might as well go back to Windows 2000.......

 

[Gwalahad]

indeed but very soon in my business i wont ahvea choice but to change to vista due to newer software only working with it, i know its a pile of crap known that sicne it was announced.

and yes beta driver +beta OS=slow

but shoudl beta driver + beta os= 1/2 speed of beta OS+ newer beta driver?

and no i did not turn off AA ad AF, because it is IMPOSIBLe minimum options for these on the drivers are 2X, and if i coudl switch them off yes i woudl ahve sicne they use performance, they may use less than going upto the next resolution, but they use pwoer, and im staying at same res with both....

 

[Makaveli]

Your trying to play what on vista, with a 9800pro on max settings??

 

[AnObfuscator]

I'm using Vista RC2 and a 9800pro, and I have noticed a framerate drop in CS:source of ~5fps from XP. However, Oblivion and Dark Messiah play smoothly. Which RC version of Vista are you using? If you are using RC1, you should get RC2 if possible; RC2 has vastly superior performance to RC1.I haven't used the new drivers for RC2 yet, so I don't know how those compare.

 

[Gwalahad]

ive always played things on max with a 9800pro, and for the purposes of this thread it wouldnt matter what card it is, sicne regardless of the card, new drivers shouldnt give you half the frames of stock OS drivers - period.

but if you must know ut2004 and BF2, and TO:crossfire(ut2004mod, but its slightly more demanding than ut2004) are the 3 that come to mind.

all are perfectly fine on 98(the ones that work on it) and 2K, little drop but still playable in XP, little drop again, borderline playable for some on vista, new drivers on vista - none playable

 

[Gwalahad]

Originally posted by: AnObfuscator
I'm using Vista RC2 and a 9800pro, and I have noticed a framerate drop in CS:source of ~5fps from XP. However, Oblivion and Dark Messiah play smoothly. Which RC version of Vista are you using? If you are using RC1, you should get RC2 if possible; RC2 has vastly superior performance to RC1.I haven't used the new drivers for RC2 yet, so I don't know how those compare.

i am using RC2, and again, if you ask me this is almost off topic, sicne the question is why woiuld new ATI drivers be half the speed of stock OS ones?

 

[lamere]

Hint, the version of vista you are using is BETA - you're not going to get full functionality no matter what you try or install.
Another hint, stay away from vista, and stick with XP - if you're having this much trouble already, its only a preview of things to come

 

[Gwalahad]

i am purely trying vista for future reference, if i had a chocie i would nver ever touch it, but with so many games going to be vist only, as XP, ill have no chocie but to change at some point, only reason i tried it. i woulnt ever have touched XP if i had a choice.

and i wouldnt say im having trouble with vitsa, id say im having trouble with ATI drivers.

since all i did was uninstall them and revert back to a basic vista bog standard video driver, and got my double perf back. i have no reason to want newer drivers other than id expect the official ATI newer ones to be faster, nto half as fast, regardless of OS.