ATI and Sappphire A board for AMD that rocks
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It is nice, i have the ecs rs480-m , based on the same chipset, and it is very good chipset , i got my stability 
(Rig :
A64 3000+ Venice Core
2*512 MB Samsung
ECS RS480-M
WD 80GB 8MB Buffer SATA)
The Sata is working very well, no needed drivers (IDE mode?)
Havent' tried the Raid , may-b later.
But it is - very good chipset.
(Rig :
A64 3000+ Venice Core
2*512 MB Samsung
ECS RS480-M
WD 80GB 8MB Buffer SATA)
The Sata is working very well, no needed drivers (IDE mode?)
Havent' tried the Raid , may-b later.
But it is - very good chipset.
Impressive so far, especially for early stuff. Would be nice to know how Crossfire truly is in comparison to SLI, choice making is soon going to be VERY tough methinks. Although with some real competition against nVidia in the AMD chipset/motherboard market can only mean lower prices. nVidia was planning to cut prices on their chipsets as soon as ATI became a threat, and they have seeing a quality SLI motherboard like the Abit for only $134 is really nice. Less expensive motherboards means we can spend the saved money on other parts, yay!
Zebo
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It's alright i found some things wrong with it.
1. Ugly snot green color
2. Memory slots are way too close together AND not staggerd which will present cooling issues for all that volts they allow you to give the ram and as well as HTT clocks.
3. Still no board has 3D audio hardware acceleration like nforce2 did.
4. Lame on-board graphics! Again nforce2, (the best chipset of all time, to which all chipsets should get better than) had a middle-ware solution, at the time, in optional GF4-MX. ATI should have x600 on there as a minimum.
I guess I should talk about positives too, but you can read wes's review..he loved it.
1. Ugly snot green color
2. Memory slots are way too close together AND not staggerd which will present cooling issues for all that volts they allow you to give the ram and as well as HTT clocks.
3. Still no board has 3D audio hardware acceleration like nforce2 did.
4. Lame on-board graphics! Again nforce2, (the best chipset of all time, to which all chipsets should get better than
) had a middle-ware solution, at the time, in optional GF4-MX. ATI should have x600 on there as a minimum. I guess I should talk about positives too, but you can read wes's review..he loved it.
The nice things about this board for me (over my current NF4 DFI /w SLI) is:
Improved audio
Passive cooling on the chipset
With the two sore spots being lack of NCQ and slow USB2 (neither of which are that big of deal)
Overall I am impressed and may have purchased this instead of my current board.
Improved audio
Passive cooling on the chipset
With the two sore spots being lack of NCQ and slow USB2 (neither of which are that big of deal)
Overall I am impressed and may have purchased this instead of my current board.
Qft Zebo (or, I didn't even quote for god's sake), however I have to disagree on #1. The board's white, not green . More like "Ugly Snot White Color"...but that woudln't make senee. Not sure about you but I love this color .
Dimms are too close together, right - but with an XP90/XP120 (Or Zalman 7700) floating over it, overclockers should be able to get away with this.
I do disagree with your comment on the video though - I beleive the video card has similar performance to the X300 - but people who use integrated graphics aren't gamers anyways. Then again, X600 is only $30 more than the X300 I beleive. I'm sure it was because of cost reasons that they sacrified video, for high definition audio (much better place to put the money IMO, as I said before, the guys that care about video cards are usually gamers).
The placement of the connectors (24-pin) looks pretty ideal as well. Sata/IDE connectors are in place (hell IDE is postioned pretty low down the board, unlike my P4P800-e which is about a few inches higher, causing a bit of a cable tension).
-The Pentium Guy
. More like "Ugly Snot White Color"...but that woudln't make senee. Not sure about you but I love this color .Dimms are too close together, right - but with an XP90/XP120 (Or Zalman 7700) floating over it, overclockers should be able to get away with this.
I do disagree with your comment on the video though - I beleive the video card has similar performance to the X300 - but people who use integrated graphics aren't gamers anyways. Then again, X600 is only $30 more than the X300 I beleive. I'm sure it was because of cost reasons that they sacrified video, for high definition audio (much better place to put the money IMO, as I said before, the guys that care about video cards are usually gamers).
The placement of the connectors (24-pin) looks pretty ideal as well. Sata/IDE connectors are in place (hell IDE is postioned pretty low down the board, unlike my P4P800-e which is about a few inches higher, causing a bit of a cable tension).
-The Pentium Guy
Zebo
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PG- color is definity a personal thang.. I bet lots love it and many hate it..it's definity different.. I myself like Black.. Reminds me when to take the air compressor out and dust
not quite x300, half *that* actually!!!
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2427
Dx9 great, but is that even faster than 3 yrs old GF4-MX???
EDit: as far as use I can think of tons, thrid monitor, cheap builds good graphics builds for non gamers and 2D gamers, silent cheap builds in SFF
Edit 2: My only point if is they are to surplant nV as superior, well, then you better be. From every angle and not marginally so to get people to notice. This is how nV pwnd VIA/SIS/Ali the day NF2 was introduced.
not quite x300, half *that* actually!!!
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2427
Dx9 great, but is that even faster than 3 yrs old GF4-MX???
EDit: as far as use I can think of tons, thrid monitor, cheap builds good graphics builds for non gamers and 2D gamers, silent cheap builds in SFF
Edit 2: My only point if is they are to surplant nV as superior, well, then you better be. From every angle and not marginally so to get people to notice. This is how nV pwnd VIA/SIS/Ali the day NF2 was introduced.
Pretty bad performance >_<. I always thought this was an X300SE built-in. Still, it's a godsend for non gamers who aren't willing to spend the $50+ on an X300 haha.
lol @ the dust comment.
We'll just have to see how good this thing is when it comes out (does anyone have the approximate release dates?)
-TPG
Ok, few questions guys:
First it appears to me that the storage performance was not that good; 377 versus the 440ish from the nForce4, is that right? I thought the iPEAK really didn't mean that much and that sustained performance was more important... school me, because I really hope I am wrong as I love the board.
Why is there that chip to left of the CPU even when integrated audio isn't included, what is the function of that?
It's a shame that the USB performance sucks so bad, anyone planning on waiting for the SB600 Sbridge to get better performance out of it? Does anyone know when that will be available? Lastly, is Sapphire just simply going to substitute the SB600 in place of the SB450 when it becomes availabe, or will this be a new board entirely?
First it appears to me that the storage performance was not that good; 377 versus the 440ish from the nForce4, is that right? I thought the iPEAK really didn't mean that much and that sustained performance was more important... school me, because I really hope I am wrong as I love the board.
Why is there that chip to left of the CPU even when integrated audio isn't included, what is the function of that?
It's a shame that the USB performance sucks so bad, anyone planning on waiting for the SB600 Sbridge to get better performance out of it? Does anyone know when that will be available? Lastly, is Sapphire just simply going to substitute the SB600 in place of the SB450 when it becomes availabe, or will this be a new board entirely?
NCQ is there with the SATA2 controller - so you can have two drives with full SATAII/NCQ/whatever support, and the rest without.
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