ATI also has shimmering

[VIAN]

(whisper)nothing

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Nice try NV fans, its not even close to the same thing.

I guess we can all take that as an admission that it is in fact present on ATI cards. Thanks Ackmed.

Man, you didn't need Ackmed to confirm it, I linked to an article that covered the issue back in one of those threads about Geforce fittering where you were trying to blow off complaints as nVidia bashing. Vian also made a thread a while back with some prictures of anistropy issues with ATI cards a while back and others have demonstrated the problem here as well. If you were to focus a little less on defending your favorate company then this would probably be old news to you.

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003Ok, now lets talk about what ATI is doing to address this situation. Anybody know?

Well it looks like they just made it worse with their new drviers, which isn't exactly a shocking move considering how little attention is payed to image quality and how many people defend their favorte company while they keep dropping their standards.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Well it looks like they just made it worse with their new drviers, which isn't exactly a shocking move considering how little attention is payed to image quality and how many people defend their favorte company while they keep dropping their standards.

Well said, competition is all fps and if the competition gets away with shimmer ....... The same people who defended Nvidia and the beta "fix", now want to attack Ati - is all about fanboy wars here. Hopefully when Dave Orton said no compromises on hdr - he really, sort of, might of meant it.

 

[Matt2]

LOL

Now I'll never look at another "Nvidia suck0rz cause of the shimmering" thread again.

I've personally never noticed anything wrong witht he IQ on my X800XL, but like a lot of people said, if you're not looking for it, you're not gonna see it.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: ronnn

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Well it looks like they just made it worse with their new drviers, which isn't exactly a shocking move considering how little attention is payed to image quality and how many people defend their favorte company while they keep dropping their standards.

Well said, competition is all fps and if the competition gets away with shimmer ....... The same people who defended Nvidia and the beta "fix", now want to attack Ati - is all about fanboy wars here. Hopefully when Dave Orton said no compromises on hdr - he really, sort of, might of meant it.

Well then, I guess thats all the video forum is then is for defending and bashing as almost any comment can be twisted into saying someone is bashing another company.

Snowman: I didn't see myself defending a favored company anywhere in this thread. Nor bash.
Right Snowman? So what are you talking about?

Everyone has the right to complain if they are not happy with their hardware. Let's not try to turn this into anything else please as your very first post in this thread was filled with assumptions and accusation.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Matt2
I've personally never noticed anything wrong witht he IQ on my X800XL, but like a lot of people said, if you're not looking for it, you're not gonna see it.

I'm not suprpriised you haven't seen it on your Radeon as the problem only turns up in a few games and a few places in them. But I assure you that it can look pretty ugly if you do happen to stumble across such a situation.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Well then, I guess thats all the video forum is then is for defending and bashing as almost any comment can be twisted into saying someone is bashing another company.

No, that isn't what this forum is for and it would be a whole lot more informative and hospitable if we didn't have any of that crap here.

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003Snowman: I didn't see myself defending a favored company anywhere in this thread. Nor bash.

And I didn't clam you were doing any such thing in this thread.

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Right Snowman? So what are you talking about?

I think you know damn well what I am talking about.

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003Everyone has the right to complain if they are not happy with their hardware. Let's not try to turn this into anything else please as your very first post in this thread was filled with assumptions and accusation.

But he wasn't complaining about his hardware, if he was I would have offered him information on how to reduce the problem. But that wasn't what this thread was about by any means, hence my responce was directed at the most obvious intent of the orginal post.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

"Last Thursday we spent a large amount of time evaluating the image quality of Catalyst 5.8 on the Radeon X800GT after seeing some irregularities."
last thursday, last week or what? large amount of time? still no results except for a lousy screenshot and a link to "a guy" from "a forum"🙁? okaaaayy....bittech scientific and reliable, eh? 😉

 

[nitromullet]

Actually, there is some video as well, which is what you really need to see the shimmering. Why they just choose to crouch to show this off is beyond me, as texture shimmering is usually more apparent with more moton.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: nitromullet
Actually, there is some video as well, which is what you really need to see the shimmering. Why they just choose to crouch to show this off is beyond me, as texture shimmering is usually more apparent with more moton.

Hmm, it's more apparent to me when crouching. When I was trying to find it in Doom 3, I found myself itching for the crouch button. Crouching+moving that is.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

Originally posted by: nitromullet
Actually, there is some video as well, which is what you really need to see the shimmering. Why they just choose to crouch to show this off is beyond me, as texture shimmering is usually more apparent with more moton.

obviously iam blind, would ya post a direct link cuz i cannot find any video in that bit-tech "article" that is actually from the bit-tech team? my point is, i hate tech sites that jump on every train and link to forums and claim they did test the sh1t thouroughly but then dont come up with any results.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch

Originally posted by: nitromullet
Actually, there is some video as well, which is what you really need to see the shimmering. Why they just choose to crouch to show this off is beyond me, as texture shimmering is usually more apparent with more moton.

obviously iam blind, would ya post a direct link cuz i cannot find any video in that bit-tech "article"?

Based on your writing, I would say that is fair conclusion. On a side note, your writing was improving until this post.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

hm, so u have the bit-tech video? 🙁 😉

 

[Hacp]

To tell you the truth, I just started seeing the shimmering in farcry with my 6800GT. A little annoying, but if I try not to notice, I won't.

 

[hans030390]

Lol, so much for Nvidia being far inferior. (its been said)

Well, if Nvidia can fix it, so can ATI. I don't think its as big as a problem for ATI though.

 

[kylebisme]

Hans, nVidia didn't fix it, their "fixed" drivers help the 7800s but the problem is still there and I am pretty sure that trouble goes all the way down to the hardware level. As for ATI I know for a fact that at least some of their filtering issues are in the hardware so there is no chance of that being totally fixed on current cards, but hopefully they will at least fix whatever extra problems they added with the latest drivers.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch

Originally posted by: nitromullet
Actually, there is some video as well, which is what you really need to see the shimmering. Why they just choose to crouch to show this off is beyond me, as texture shimmering is usually more apparent with more moton.

obviously iam blind, would ya post a direct link cuz i cannot find any video in that bit-tech "article" that is actually from the bit-tech team? my point is, i hate tech sites that jump on every train and link to forums and claim they did test the sh1t thouroughly but then dont come up with any results.

Well, I would agree that someone who "thoroughly" tested something should post their own results. However, they do link to the forum that does contain video. I would think that it's fair to assume that they observed similar results or they would have not done that. Either way, there really are plenty of people out there with ATI cards that can either confirm or deny the shimmering claim. The previous situation with the Forceware 78.03 drivers was a bit different because the drivers had not been publicly released at that time, and only Rollo and ChrisRay had access to them.